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    Switzerland: Muslims Are Welcome, if They're Integrated and Unobtrusive

    68% think you can be Swiss and Muslim, but 40% think that Islam isn't compatible with the values of a Swiss democracy. There are 8% out there who must think you can be Swiss and Muslim provided you're not Muslim.

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    Muslims have a place in Switzerland, provided they're integrated and unobtrusive, according to a survey by the MIS Trend institute for 24 Heures. Muslims have a neutral image - neither good, nor bad. They get better marks in Swiss French area (39% very or fairly good) than in the Swedish German area (29%). Unsurprising, right-wing voters are more reserved (21% favorable) than those from the center (28%) or left-wing (45%). Women are more distrustful than men.

    A very large majority of respondents (68%) said that it's possible to be a real Swiss and Muslim at the same time. 60% think that Islam should be treated in the same way as the Christian religions. Yet, the Vaud canton constitution doesn't grant official status to Islam, unlike Protestantism, Catholicism and Judaism.

    Generally well accepted, Islam in Switzerland raises some doubts. First, a large minority (40%) think that Islam isn't compatible with the values of a Swiss democracy. And then, while Muslim communities aren't seen as a threat for state security (63%), 49% of respondents think that Islam more easily leads to extremism than other religions (41% disagree).

    Marie-Hélène Miauton, the manager of MIS Trend says that the results are "very reasonable. Very Swiss." She says there's no lack of awareness regarding Islam, but there's concern about extremism. For the rest, the message is essentially: Muslims are free to live their faith, but they must integrate.
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    When are Muslims integrated and unobtrusive? Sounds like an oxymoron to me.

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    68% think you can be Swiss and Muslim
    It would not surprise me if they asked only college students or other youthful variants to participate in that survey.
    How many of the elderly did they question? Probably none.
    I am confident that almost every Swiss 35 years old and above would have given negative responses to the muslim scourge.

    ...provided they're integrated and unobtrusive
    How can they possibly be unobtrusive?! Pretty soon every Swiss city will wake up to Muslim prayer calls and their city's skylines bristling with who knows how many minarets and domes.

    The Swiss govt. and media will refuse to point the finger at immigrants as being the overwhelming cause of violence, which is definitely not "very reasonable, very swiss".

    They get better marks in Swiss French area...
    Hardly surprising.

    ...than in the Swedish German area.
    Those evil Germans! How typical.

    Generally well accepted...
    Until they interview all 7.5 million Swiss citizens, then their puny little poll can never be an accurate estimation.

    Marie-Hélène Miauton, the manager of MIS Trend says...Muslims are free to live their faith, but they must integrate.
    Integration ultimately means death to the Swiss as more and more muslims flood that tiny country and rut with the ever more compliant youth. Eventually it will be mixed "Swiss" citizens further mixing with pure blooded muslims.
    In the end, there will not be a single pure-blooded Germanic to sustain our numbers there.

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    I can only and will repeat myself: Islam is not a religion and should by no means fall under the protection of the human right of freedom of religion. Islam is a political concept. Whoever does not want to see that is either asleep, as most Europeans are, or stupid and willing to tolerate fundamental intolerance, thus tolerating tolerance to its own death.

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    If they integrate ?

    They do not belong here.

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    I don't care if they are the nicest, most integrated people in the world, my issue with them is that they are NOT natives of Europe and thus do not belong there. Their presence in large number ultimitely undermines the character, culture and ethnic makeup of the various European countries. The countries of Europe are ethnic nations and are not meant to be multicultural.

    I hope the Swiss wake up soon.

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    A muslim who is both integrateable and unobtrusive ?
    No such animal !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bollwerk View Post
    A muslim who is both integrateable and unobtrusive ?
    I wouldn´t want them even if they would be integrateable and unobtrusive. They just don´t belong here.

    "Judge of your natural character by what you do in your dreams" - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    Well, Muslims are most certainly welcome if they're integrated and unobtrusive. Just that it's not even a sheer impossibility, it is actual impossibility.

    A Muslim which is integrated and unobtrusive is an oxymoron. It is much like a law which dictates one may settled everywhere in the FRG except its sixteen states. Or like one which says you may drive on any side of the road except on the left. Or like participating in outdoor activities from your bathroom.

    Granted, the last of the three is possible, because you can play football with one person standing outside and one standing inside, but y'all get the drift. Islam is incompatible with our culture as a whole, as such Muslims can by design not be integrated OR unobtrusive in our society. They'd have to be in a vegetative state for that ... though actually scratch that too, that'd still qualify as obtrusive.
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    Muslims are welcome in the following 4 places :

    1. The deserts of the Middle East and Iran.
    2. The jungles of Indonesia, South Asia and Africa.
    3. The mountains of Central Asia and Turkey.
    4. The state of israel.

    But not in any Aryan country.

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