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    US Elections 2009

    Yesterday voters went to the polls to elect state officials in New Jersey & Virginia:

    G.O.P. Wins Two Key Governors’

    Savoring their victories in gubernatorial contests in New Jersey and Virginia, Republicans were trying on Wednesday morning to build momentum, in a time of economic concern, for a strong challenge to President Obama’s party in next year’s midterm Congressional elections.

    The White House insisted that the Republican victories in the two races for governor were not referendums on President Obama rather the reflections of “very local issues that didn’t involve the president,” as Robert Gibbs, the chief administration spokesman, told reporters.

    Indeed, local issues dominated in both gubernatorial races, exit polls indicated, and the results seemed to carry cautions for both parties. But for the moment, a collective frustration with the economy and anxiety over high property taxes helped Republicans regain some ground that they had ceded to Democrats in recent years. The trend was especially in the New York suburbs, where Republican challengers unseated a three-term county executive in Westchester County, retook control of the legislature in Nassau County and came tantalizingly close to winning the county executive race there as well.

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    Obama campained hard for Corzine in New Jersey - a heavily Democrat state - so this shows that Obamamania has worn off. In Virginia the Republican Mr. McDonnell won by 18 points (59% to 41%) over the Democrat, Mr. Deeds. Last year Virginia voted for Obama, the first time since 1964 the state had voted for a Democrat in the presidential election.

    Both Christie & McDonnell are establishment Republicans. The Republican party has disappointed Conservatives time after time, on fiscal policy, social issues & immigration. Yesterday there was a special election for the New York 23 district for the US House of Representives. The local Republican bosses nominated a moderate, Dede Scozzafava, (pro-abortion, pro-same-sex-marriage, pro-stimulus spending) who was challenged by a Conservative, Doug Hoffman, who ran as a third party candidate. Scozzafava dropped out last week because she was third in the polls & endorced the Democrat, Bill Owens. Yesterday Owens won with 49% of the vote, with Hoffman receiving 45%. What the election showed is that Conservative are no longer welling to accept moderate (Democrat-lite) Republicans & will start challenging them. 45% is very high for a third-party candidate & should serve as a warning to other moderates up for relection next year, e.g. John McCain.

    Also yesterday, Maine voters overturned a legislative act, that had legalized gay marriage in that state.

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    You're playing into the system. Republicans and Democrats are the same thing. Such elections are a distraction because the policy never really changes in any significant way.

    I was reading one WN pamphlet that was speaking about how Republicans (conservatives) today would have been considered liberals 20 years ago. And the Conservatives of 20 years ago would have been liberals 10 or 20 years before that. So essentially we take two or three steps forward towards a marxist state then once in a while take half a step back to make the people happy, but it doesn't matter it is just a slight detour.

    Secondly obviously both parties always agree on the major issues. Take universal healthcare. They don't debate about whether we should have it but how we should administer it. Actually they all agree on 99% of how and just argue over something trivial to make it appear like democracy is in action. Here's a thought game: if 100% of our politicians were republican- if republicans won every single position in the country do you think abortion would be outlawed? Do you really think so? I don't. I don't think much would change. It's a one party system. Celebrate when an actual opposing party wins.

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