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    What is Your Coat of Arms (Armorial Achievement)?

    You've all seen coats of arms. Usually in the form of a shield, sometimes subdivided, usually with one or more charges (symbols) and usually with a distinct and meaningful set of colors. Sometimes they are depicted with animals on either side acting as "supports" for the shield.



    Countries, cities and states can have coats of arms. Also, individuals can have coats of arms. Contrary to popular belief, coats of arms are generally not associated with families: they are "armorial achievements" for a particular person ... although they can be passed down from individual to individual in a direct blood line.

    In some countries, you need to be awarded with a coat of arms. In other countries, you can just design one of your own if you want to.



    If you have a coat of arms, what is it?

    If you do not... what would you want your coat of arms to be? What symbols would you include? What colors would it contain?

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    Related thread The Flag and Coat of Arms of Your Country or Region and City

    My family never had a coat of arms as far as I know.
    If we had one I would maybe like one with a axe (symbolising farmer culture) or a boat, as most of my ancestors were seagoing men.

    This is a coat of arms with a axe called peasant axe:


    Here is the coat of arms from where most of my family is from, it is a Nordlandsbåt (fembøring). It is closely related to the viking ships:


    Here is some other Norwegian area coat of arms:
    Ullensaker:


    Lillehammer:


    Sel:


    Sør-Aurdal:


    Many more here: http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikiped...i/Kommunevåpen
    Alot of them are inspired from norse, the walknot is for example used

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    My maternal grandmother's direct paternal ancestor was granted a coat of arms by King Henry VII for his service during the Wars of the Roses. We have an old, wall-mounted copy of it, as well as a depiction on a piece of fabric that was handed out at a family reunion years ago. I have included a picture of the latter.


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    Based on some research there is a coat of arms I could potentially consider my own. But I have to do some proper genealogical research first to find out if I may use it. Also there are some elements of it that could be interesting.

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    GroeneWolf,

    You should be aware that most sites that claim to be able to find your "Family Coat of Arms" are frauds.

    In fact, coats of arms are never awarded to "family names": they are awarded to individuals, and the right to use a particular ancestor's coat of arms is passed down through direct lineage. So you may be able to unearth an ancestor's coat of arms, and you may even be able to claim the right to use it. But it is not a "family" coat of arms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VergesEngst View Post
    GroeneWolf,

    You should be aware that most sites that claim to be able to find your "Family Coat of Arms" are frauds.
    I am fully aware of it. Therefore I added that I should do proper research to find out if I have the right to use it.

    Second, the site I have this info from is the site of a NGO that collects information that is useful for those who want do genealogical research.

    www.cbg.nl


    You probably read to much in what I have written.

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    I have not yet answered my own question.

    As far as I know, none of my ancestors were ever awarded a coat of arms. As far as I know, I have no nobility in my heritage. So if I wanted a coat of arms, I would need to design one for myself.

    The two regions that I feel a connection with -- the regions from which my parents' families are from -- are Bavaria and Galicia. Each region historically has had its own coat of arms...



    And I would like to incorporate at least some elements of both, if I were to design my own coat of arms. At the very least, I would like to incorporate blue, white, and yellow -- which combines the colors of each (blue+white and blue+yellow).

    I wish I were a better artist... I would design something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VergesEngst View Post
    The two regions that I feel a connection with -- the regions from which my parents' families are from -- are Bavaria and Galicia. Each region historically has had its own coat of arms...
    If you don't descend from the noble houses to which these belong you aren't actually entitled to include them in your coat of arms. I call that "heraldic fraud".

    Many achievements of the nobility are directly linked with the grant of nobility and are usually only permitted to be carried forth usual by male, legitimate heirs or in the absence of such, heraldic heiresses. These usually also have some distinction for the second son or third son to differentiate.

    If you really wish to include those areas, you should include the colours of that area in the mantelling, or alternatively have a crest on the helmet consisting of the flags of that area.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    Sigurd says,

    If you don't descend from the noble houses to which these belong you aren't actually entitled to include them in your coat of arms. I call that "heraldic fraud".
    Yes indeedy. I agree. That's why I went on to say,

    And I would like to incorporate at least some elements of both, if I were to design my own coat of arms. At the very least, I would like to incorporate blue, white, and yellow... (emphasis aded)
    My notion was more to "signify" my connection with those lands through the coloring, more than anything else.

    You also say,

    Many achievements of the nobility are directly linked with the grant of nobility and are usually only permitted to be carried forth usual by ...(and so on)
    And I agree, I do want to be very careful, and respectful of tradition in this regard. I probably still need to do more research on the details of the rules. I do know, for example, that I can correctly signify my "non-nobility" status through my choice of helmet that appears above the shield, and that there are certain portions/ornamentations that I am not permitted to include.

    My own design would probably be very basic, my main freedom being the choice of charge(s) to appear on the shield and the choice of colors. I am content with that. (Having a very simple coat of arms, I mean.)

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