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    White Europeans Evolved Only 5,500 Years Ago

    White Europeans could have evolved as recently as 5,500 years ago, according to research which suggests that the early humans who populated Britain and Scandinavia had dark skins for millenniums.

    It was only when early humans gave up hunter-gathering and switched to farming about 5,500 years ago that white skin began to be favoured, say the researchers.

    This is because farmed food was deficient in vitamin D, a vital nutrient. Humans can make this in their skin when exposed to sunlight, but dark skin is much less efficient at it.

    In places such as northern Europe, where sunlight levels are low, the ability to make vitamin D more efficiently could have been crucial to survival.

    Johan Moan, of the Institute of Physics at the University of Oslo, said in a research paper: In England, from 5,500-5,200 years ago the food changed rapidly away from fish as an important food source. This led to a rapid development of ... light skin.

    Moan, who worked with Richard Setlow, a biophysicist at Brookhaven National Laboratory in New York state, said vitamin D deficiency could be lethal. Research links it with heart disease, diabetes, arthritis and reduced immunity.

    Their research says: Cold climates and high latitudes would speed up the need for skin lightening. Agricultural food was an insufficient source of vitamin D, and solar radiation was too low to produce enough vitamin D in dark skin.

    Such findings need to be treated with caution. The history of the colonisation of Europe is highly complex because its climate has been dominated by a series of ice ages, punctuated by warm periods.

    This means early humans ventured to Europe not just once but many times over the past 700,000 years, returning each time the ice melted only to be driven back again when it returned.

    Furthermore, the ice ages coincided with, and may even have driven, the evolution of modern humans, with several species such as Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons appearing at various times.

    The idea that human evolution has often turned on chance mutations is well established. Some researchers have linked the entire evolution of language with mutations in a gene known as FoxP2 occcuring about 50,000 years ago.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6814896.ece

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    According to a National Geographic special I saw a number of years ago, the first modern homo sapiens in Europe needed to develop light skin very soon after entering Europe. If I'm not mistaken, that was around forty thousand years ago.
    The white skin of Europeans was attributed to Ice Age conditions which required early Europeans to cover most of their bodies for most of the year which, in turn, led to decreased vitamin D production. This lack of vitamin D resulted in the increase of rickets in children, which can be deadly. The children with the lightest skin were less likely to develop this condition, so they had a better chance of survival.
    There is a population geneticist called Cavalli-Sforza who theorizes that the "hair color diversity" of Europeans also came about during the last Ice Age due a shortage of men, and sex partner selection in a climate where the physical attributes of women couldn't be displayed; only their hair could be shown off. During that period, a woman's hair color was like a peacocks display of feather's.
    So again, it seems as if the lightening of European peoples began almost immediately after they got to the continent. The health of dark skinned people living in Europe had to be poor. It's said that if you are at the very least olive skinned, and live north of the latitude Atlanta, Georgia is on, then you're very likely vitamin D deficient. This particular deficiency can prevent your body from absorbing and using other vitamins which can lead to high blood pressure, osteoporosis, etc. Tens of thousands of years ago, people didn't have vitamin supplements to correct deficiencies, so only people who were already better physcally suited for a particular environment survived in it.

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    Even if its true it still makes us the newest most advanced & evolved race on earth.

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    Exclamation

    Another try to take away European identity.

    Anyway, here is a counter responce: http://leejohnbarnes.blogspot.com/20...by-blacks.html

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    This is, as usual, potential scientific fact being cloaked in a politically correct garment.

    That full depigmentation could have taken place reasonably late has been a theory for awhile - even Carleton S. Coon saw Nordids as a Corded Ware/Danubian mixture who later depigmented ... this would have hardly been much before that time scale.

    What the politically correct part about it is, is the "White Europeans evolved only 5,500 years ago" part. That they may have had darker pigment altogether is well possible, but most certainly they would not have had pitch-black skin.

    At any rate it is possible to theorise that there were two separate waves of depigmentation, the latter of which only occurred "reasonably recently" - which would make the "dark-skinned" people they're talking about hardly darker than nowadays Spaniards, at best no darker than Egyptians, which would already be reasonably depigmented from the full-fledged Negroid mean.

    In either case, pigment is a reasonably minor pointer in taxonomical matters, pigment has been known to change reasonably quickly in population groups and for a variety of reasons. Even had our ancestors still been pitch-black until 5,500 years ago, then most of the morphological and genetic deviation from other population groups would have occurred long before actual depigmentation.

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    Another try to take away European identity.
    It wouldn't even take away European identity fully. Most of our cultural achievements that set us apart from and above the achievements of most other population groups occured in the time since the Bronze Age, which - at the time they are stipulating for depigmentation - was not to start for another 1,000-2,000 years, depending on the area.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lgen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklrbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergnnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    The oldest definitely dated European early modern human (EEMH) specimen with modern and archaic, possibly Neanderthal, traits is Oase 1 from 34,000–36,000 years ago.

    Fair skin is particularly characteristic of Northern European peoples, but its use for colloquial references to the Europid race only serves to promote idiocy. As a way of self-identification, it is a side effect of the failed imperial ambitions of the English-speaking peoples.

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    What do they mean by "dark skin"?
    Do they mean olive or light-brown skin (which is common among non-European peoples in northern climates, and still exists in sunnier southern Europe) or do they mean dark-brown skin? (The latter is usually found in the tropics- the Tasmanian aborigines were the only people native to a cold region who had this skin color).
    Poorly written article.

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    If this is true then all the more reason to ensure that Whiteness prevails well into the future and is not just remembered as a brief anomaly that took place somewhere in the vastness of human history.

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    Where's the evidence for their theory? None. It's all speculation. Though more or less modern "whites" are about 30,000 years old. Also the book "10,000 year explosion" offers some pretty eye opening studies showing that evolution can be occurring pretty recently in history. It had one study that showed for example that the average height of foreheads had increased over a couple hundred years in Europe. I'd say the modern folk are an evolution in the making. Genetic studies do point out that whites are the youngest race. Again the genetic tests point to a 30,000 year old divergence from the rest of humanity with possible interbreeding with older European groups.

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    I thought the foxp2 gene was one hundred thousand years old, not fifty thousand years old.

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