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    Should Obama Send 40,000 New Troops to Afghanistan?

    Personally, if Obama does not send the troops over, Afghanistan will become a lost cause. Currently violence and casualties have increased due to the emboldened Taliban forces. This Taliban surge is due to the questionabley weak military policey of Obama and the Taliban jumping on the oportunity presented. The solution is simple. Increase U.S. forces as the General suggested. If that happens, victory will follow. However, if the Taliban are allowed to continue their tyraid...

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    I am very split on sending more troops. On hand we should bring our troops home because I think it will never end. On the other hand if we don't send more forces it might embolden them even more.

    Obama cannot make a right decision or a wrong decision only a political decision. He is posisably the weakest leader the US has ever seen.

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    I have one word for you: VIETNAM. Vietnam was essentially a civil war. The same with Afghanistan. The Viet Cong were seen as nationalists opposing foreign aggressors. The Taliban are now seen as patriots opposing foreign aggression. It's a lose-lose situation for the US. Both the British & Soviets fought & lost wars in Afghanistan, fighting tribal warriors on their homeland which is some of the most rugged terrain in the world. What is the point in staying in Afghanistan? So they can develope a Western style liberal democracy? Afghanistan has no natural resources or produces anything the rest of the world wants except for opium. The only thing the have is the alternate route for oil pipelines coming out of Central Asia that would otherwise havbe to go through Iran. Best to let the pipelines go through Iran or do business with the Taliban. It's not likely the US would be getting much of it's oil from that region anyway as it would seem the natural market for oil from the region would be China or India.

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    I am very split on sending more troops. On hand we should bring our troops home because I think it will never end. On the other hand if we don't send more forces it might embolden them even more.

    Obama cannot make a right decision or a wrong decision only a political decision. He is posisably the weakest leader the US has ever seen.
    I agree, Bush & Cheney got us into this mess, now Obama is doing nothing, but drawing straws. Biden is quite the opposite of Cheney. Cheney was very over-bearing, but Biden is doing nothing, except for advising Obama which banks to bail out. I don't think that McCain would do much better, but at least he would have some credibility, as far as military decisions. The last time, that we ever had a strong Democrat & a strong Republican candidate running against each other, was when Clinton ran against Dole in 1996!

    Commentary
    A Weak American President
    Anne Bayefsky, 06.23.09, 07:38 PM EDT
    Behold Obama on Iran.


    President Obama has staked his reputation on being a human rights guru to people around the world. But his remarks at Tuesday's news conference and behavior since taking office have instead exposed a different persona--that of human rights charlatan.

    On June 15, three days after the phony Iranian elections and the same day that seven Iranian demonstrators were murdered, Obama's UN Ambassador, Susan Rice, made a speech in Vienna promoting the Saint Obama vision: "The responsibility to protect is a duty that I feel deeply. … We must prepare for the likelihood that we will again face the worst impulses of human nature run riot, perhaps as soon as in days to come. And we must be ready. … We all know the greatest obstacle to swift action in the face of sudden atrocity is, ultimately, political will. … It requires above all the courage and compassion to act. Together, let us all help one other to have and to act upon the courage of our convictions."

    More:http://www.forbes.com/2009/06/23/oba...-bayefsky.html


    I have one word for you: VIETNAM. Vietnam was essentially a civil war. The same with Afghanistan. The Viet Cong were seen as nationalists opposing foreign aggressors. The Taliban are now seen as patriots opposing foreign aggression.
    I agree! This is Obama's Viet-nam! Johnson gave up trying to get the US out the Kennedy administration's mess, and Nixon wanted to turn that into a patriotic war.

    Viet Nam: Richard Nixon's Tough Assessment
    By WILLIAM A. HENRY III Monday, Apr. 15, 1985

    It has become conventional wisdom that only a stern anti-Communist such as Richard Nixon could have opened relations with China. It may also be that only a Nixon could have withdrawn U.S. forces from a conflict with a Soviet proxy and accepted a cease-fire that left thousands of Communist insurgents far beyond their legal borders, in place for an eventual onslaught. By the time the 1973 Paris accords were signed, any prudent politician might have had enough doubts about South Viet Nam's survival to start shifting blame to others for having "lost" an ally. Hawks like Nixon assailed doves for cutting military aid. The doves replied that they were facing up to the reality of the hawks' failure on the battlefield.

    More:http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...6206-1,00.html
    Last edited by frippardthree; Thursday, October 29th, 2009 at 05:05 AM. Reason: Added Sources!

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    Clinton was strong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Baughman View Post
    Clinton was strong?
    Well, in comparison to Obama.
    Maybe, that's not saying very much.

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    Send the troops to the borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dietsch View Post
    Send the troops to the borders.
    I probably would not have said that a few months ago, but since this is been dragging on, with no end in sight, I would have to agree with you.

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    We should let them rule their countries and we shall rule ours. We should not try to tell other countries how to manage their buisness.

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    One problem...

    Quote Originally Posted by uppvaknad View Post
    We should let them rule their countries and we shall rule ours. We should not try to tell other countries how to manage their buisness.
    Their is one problem in that statement. The Taliban pose a major threat to the U.S. as they are now. If the Obama doesn't send over reinfocements and eventualy lets the Taliban "rule themselves," then the Taliban will gain immense power posing an even bigger threat in the future. The best thing to do is nip it in the bud.

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