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    Whitopia: America’s Booming White Enclaves

    Traveling some 27,000 miles, African-American journalist Rich Benjamin roamed the U.S. from 2007 to 2009 exploring a major demographic shift that is attracting remarkably little attention—the flight of white residents from cities and integrated suburbs into cloistered, racially homogeneous enclaves. Tidy communities such as St. George, Utah, and Coeur d’Alene, Idaho—places Benjamin calls Whitopias—have grown at triple the rate of America’s cities in recent years, raising troubling questions about the country’s multiracial cohesion. The Stanford literature Ph.D. chronicled his adventure in a new book, Searching for Whitopia: An Improbable Journey to the Heart of White America,

    Let’s start with the title of your book—what is a Whitopia, exactly? It seems to be more than just a place where a lot of white people live.

    Absolutely. A Whitopia has three things. First, it has posted more than 6% population growth since 2000. The second thing is that the majority of that growth—upwards of 90%—comes from white migrants. The third thing a Whitopia has is an ineffable social charm—a pleasant look and feel.

    You say that many Whitopias offer a high quality of life and tend to perform well on those “Best Places to Live” lists that run in magazines. Do you think people are also drawn to these places specifically for their whiteness?

    The major draw to Whitopia is that they’re safe communities with good public schools and beautiful natural resources. Those qualities are subconsciously inseparable from race in many Americans’ minds. For some people, race is a major role, and they said so to my face, but most of the Whitopians I encountered aren’t intentionally practicing racial discrimination or self-segregation.

    You say Whitopias can form even in the middle of diverse cities. How is that possible?

    People don’t realize that diversity isn’t the same as integration. Blacks and whites in New York, where I live, are as segregated today as in 1910 [based on a sociologists’ segregation index that measures how much contact people of differing races have with one another.]

    What is the danger Whitopias pose to America as a whole?

    You can call me old-fashioned, but I’m an integrationist. A democracy can’t function at its optimum unless all members are integrated as full members.

    A community full of like-minded people tends to enforce their own view of the world and close off opposing viewpoints. {snip}

    {snip}

    Are there any places that are getting it right now? That serve as a model for what you’d like to see?

    There are communities around the country that get it right. Maplewood, N.J., has all the attributes of a Whitopia—high property values, great public schools, neighborliness—and yet it’s also integrated and very diverse.

    What surprised you about the communities you spent time in?

    I was caught off-guard by the level of hostility to immigration reform in many of these communities and by how concerned many are by taxes—they believe taxes are too high. But I was also caught off-guard by how pleasant an experience it turned out to be, the personable warmth that greeted me in many cases.

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    White folks are constantly on the move, running away from diversity, even if the pay lip service to racial equality & vote, election after election, for politicians who support the current staus quo (affirmative action, "fair housing laws" & school integration), even those who voted for the Kenyan messiah. We are running out of places (without diversity) to move to. The Mexicans, Negroes & Asians all know that the Whiter a community the better quality of living it enjoys. I would like to see all this migration in the US (internal & international) reversed. I have a dream of Los Angeles, Detroit & St. Louis once again becoming Whitopias.

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    They had a documentary on a place like this on TV. It was in Northern Arkansas close to the headquarters of the KKK. Lots of white retirees were moving there because it was a white area and cheap cost of living. The local government building flies a confederate flag. They interviewed residence there who openly said they moved there because there were no minorities. Well the all white school ended up bringing in a couple black people to prove they weren't racist, but other than that the town and reputation remains. They had an interview with a KKK guy on the show and everything.

    The only thing about these areas is there are no jobs. Mainly places to retire to, but can't raise a family there. the other thing is still a lot of the residents are afraid of being called racist.

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    Forsyth County, Georgia

    Forsyth County is an example of a Whitopia. The Negro population of the then rural county was ran out after 2 White women were assaulted in 1912. Apparently Forsyth County had a "bad reputation" for decades afterwards. It was national news when civil rights leaders ( Negro race hustlers) led a march on Forsyth County with the Klan responding with their own march. The 'negative' image of being a racist county doesn't seem to have hurt Forsyth County as it has transformed from a rural county into a suburban county of Metro Atlanta with over 150,000, growth that had been spurred in spite of (in actuality because of) it reputation as a White enclave were Negroes were not welcomed. It is still predominately White - approximately 85%, with Negroes at 2.7%. Hispanics are 7.7%, 20 years ago they would have 0%. Like all Whitopias it is seeing a rapid increase of minorities who want to be near Whitey.
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    What is the danger Whitopias pose to America as a whole?
    Just say you hate it when whites live somewhere white and free otherwise you would say the same about places that are all black and all mexican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric
    The 'negative' image of being a racist county doesn't seem to have hurt Forsyth County as it has transformed from a rural county into a suburban county of Metro Atalnta with over 150,000, growth that had been spurred in spite of (in actually because of) it reputation as a White enclave were Negroes were not welcomed.
    We should all learn from these enclaves how to make the minorities feel not welcomed!

    Then we wouldnt have the problem if millions invading our lands, there simply wouldnt be a place for them.

    And, 'negative' depends obviously on the perspective one takes to look at it
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    Amazing that it is much easier for people to sell their house, abandon friends and family, uproot their children than to fight and make a stand. Most of these people have done nothing to stop what is happening. They can't even be bothered to vote for a white nationalist.

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    because if you resist you are called a racist and everyone hates you. Half your white family will be against you, most of your white neighbors, and of course 99% of all non-whites. You'll possibly loose your job, be physically assualted and a total social outcast. The only place you will be welcome is with "extremists" and other racists.

    Most of society are feminized slaves without backbones. However they are willing to act violently when they feel there is no danger to themselves (following the crowd) and they'll also risk their life doing what they are told for fear of their master. So in the end it does them no good being a coward, but they are just degenerate. The hormones and such put in the food play a role in this as does public education, the media and so forth.

    Say if you have a $50 k a year job. Are you willing to loose this for being called a racist? I think the tables are turning though. Its getting to the point where people are so fed up that they realize its better to be called a racist than to live in the cess pool that society is becoming.

    But its also a hard thing to do. Most people are not hate filled. Its hard to say to a black neighbor "hey I don't really want you here". Its hard to punish people even when they do crimes. Its really a delicate thing and rather than deal with it people just run away from it. So long as there is somewhere to move to maybe its not a big deal, but now that its getting where people have nowhere to run more people will stand up and do something. I think gated private communities and private social clubs will be needed.

    But as long as people have a single ideal in their head no progress can be made: when people believe that all people have value. That all people deserve a certain quality of life, and that all people are inherently the same (equal). This all sounds good on the surface. It feels good. The average person isn't a philosopher so he accepts it. But break it down and think about it and its non sense. Its a murderer or rapist just as good as a hard working honest man? Should a person who works have the same quality of life as someone who is too lazy to work? Can a community survive if it doesn't ask anything from its citizens or set any standards?

    What's happening is people's reality are conflicting with their beliefs. So they act irrationally. Only when they start to accept a more rational belief system will they act responsibly. The main reason people believe this nonsense is because its drilled into them in school and through the media and they've never heard anything different. We need to get the word out to people and start opening their eyes. We need to lift the spell of indoctrination and brainwashing that is over these people.

    I think a lot of degenerates don't want the spell lifted though. They know inside that they are inferior so perpetuate the myths. I think its the "christian" syndrome. People don't want to judge others because they will be judge themselves. "I know all these morons around me are destroying society, but I'm a moron too, so best keep quiet and pretend everything makes sense". So that's a problem. We need people to realize its better to be at the bottom of a healthy society than to be the king of a troop of retards, degenerates and failures. And that we don't demand perfection, but just that you can pull your own weight.

    This is why liberals always shout about "survival of the fittest" and "hate". They want everyone to feel inadequate so they support the party line. It isn't about survival of the fittest but survival of the fit. It isn't about hate of others but love of your own self and community.

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    How does the concept of those whitetopias (pure white population) work in reality? What if Black families move to such places? The Whitetopians can't just send them back.
    The Indians did not stop the flood of immigrants - today they live in reservations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stimme View Post
    How does the concept of those whitetopias (pure white population) work in reality? What if Black families move to such places? The Whitetopians can't just send them back.
    It is real simple you don't make them feel welcome, This goes for Hispanics as well. When the local furniture factory(or what ever ) starts hiring them give him a hard time about it. If enough people just stick together it works on a small scale.

    Quote Originally Posted by uppvaknad View Post
    Amazing that it is much easier for people to sell their house, abandon friends and family, uproot their children than to fight and make a stand. Most of these people have done nothing to stop what is happening. They can't even be bothered to vote for a white nationalist.
    We don't have mainstream white nationalist candidates in the US they are suppressed by the media. As much as I don't like it America has almost become homogenized so it is no big deal for families to move to new areas.

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