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    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Reisman:

    Reisman is a surname of German-Jewish Ashkenazic origin (Hebrew רייזמאן)

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    Perhaps he has a piece on why the NWO is not Totalitarian...

    Ludwig von Mises Institute from Wikipedia

    Ludwig von Mises was born in the city of Lemberg, in Galicia, Austria-Hungary (now in Ukraine), to parents Arthur Edler von Mises from a recently ennobled Jewish family involved in building and financing railroads, and Adele von Mises (née Landau), the niece of Dr. Joachim Landau, a Liberal Party deputy to the Austrian Parliament.[1]. Arthur was stationed there as a construction engineer with Czernowitz railroad company. At the age of twelve Ludwig spoke fluent German, Polish, and French, read Latin, and could understand Ukrainian.[2] Mises had two younger brothers: applied physicist Richard von Mises, a member of the famous Vienna Circle, and later Karl von Mises, who died in infancy from scarlet fever. When Ludwig and Richard were children, his family moved back to their ancestral home of Vienna.
    George Reisman is also connected to Andrew Bernstein who in turn is connected to the Ayn Rand Institute a nonprofit think tank in Irvine, California that promotes Ayn Rand's (a russian jew) philosophy, called Objectivism.

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    ...to spearhead a cultural renaissance that will reverse the anti-reason, anti-individualism, anti-freedom, anti-capitalist trends in today's culture. The major battleground in this fight for reason and capitalism is the educational institutions—high schools and, above all, the universities, where students learn the ideas that shape their lives.
    Translated: New World Order.
    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    Socialism is Socialism?

    Thanks, Reisman!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimner View Post
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Reisman:

    Reisman is a surname of German-Jewish Ashkenazic origin (Hebrew רייזמאן)

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    Perhaps he has a piece on why the NWO is not Totalitarian...

    Ludwig von Mises Institute from Wikipedia



    George Reisman is also connected to Andrew Bernstein who in turn is connected to the Ayn Rand Institute a nonprofit think tank in Irvine, California that promotes Ayn Rand's (a russian jew) philosophy, called Objectivism.



    Translated: New World Order.
    I know very well what Reisman's origins are and what the Ludwig von Mises Institute is. Speaking of objectivism, do you have anything objective to add about Reisman's theory? I don't believe being Jewish automatically means you cannot make a good argument.

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    Socialism is Socialism?

    Thanks, Reisman!
    I believe many of your fellow National Socialists would disagree. You would perhaps be surprised to see how many National Socialists resent Socialism and dissociate from it, not wanting to admit that their own ideology contains it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagna View Post
    I know very well what Reisman's origins are and what the Ludwig von Mises Institute is. Speaking of objectivism, do you have anything objective to add about Reisman's theory? I don't believe being Jewish automatically means you cannot make a good argument.


    I believe many of your fellow National Socialists would disagree. You would perhaps be surprised to see how many National Socialists resent Socialism and dissociate from it, not wanting to admit that their own ideology contains it.
    Socialism is just a concept, not a political ideology. When Americans, for example, say they dislike Socialism, they are actually referring to Marxist Socialism, which is an ideology by a specific set of people.

    Helping eachother in a society has always existed.

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    What is the point of this guys argument? I stopped watching after the first video. He's full of crap.

    a) The U.S. government also issued price controls and rationing of food and essential goods in order to divert resources to the war. During WWII people could not buy food in the united states without government issued stamps. The control of the economy in Nazi Germany was related to emergency measures during war time, not permanent long standing institutions.

    b) One of the cornerstones of the Nazi party's goals was to allow every German citizen or close to it to own their own home!

    Socialism is not the same as price controls or government intervention in private industry. Socialism is the belief that the needs of the group comes before the needs of the individual and a belief in creating social justice (however one may see that) within society. The Nazis were socialist in the respect that they believed in looking out for the little guy- the worker. The same way the U.S. became socialist with labor unions and minimal wage laws. Prior to that children were dying in factories and sweat shops and wages were exessively low for most people.

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    Dagna, The Objective point is that with the questionable company that jew Riesman keeps his argumente against NS is tainted, much like your own. He is using the concept of Marxist socialism and likening it with NS in order to further repel people from this worthy Folk based socialism which seeks to build a people, he is furthering the capitalist al encompassing control over our lives. This is what jews like himself excel at, blurring & confusing terms. So don’t jump on your high liberty horse.
    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagna View Post
    I don't believe being Jewish automatically means you cannot make a good argument.
    A surprising reply, considering your repeated attempts to label NS as Jewish. Since that came to nothing and also threatens to undermine your own position, it is strategically sound to try a different attack vector.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dagna View Post
    I believe many of your fellow National Socialists would disagree.
    The reason for this is obvious: American neo-Nazis try to repackage NS for a thoroughly liberal audience that rejects any break with liberal tradition. NS is a fundamentally un-American ideology firmly grounded in our German history of ideas, without any tolerance for the destruction of society by the individual and his whims. For an American, it is difficult to imagine non-liberal political systems and the sharp distinctions between them are always blurred by the primary perception that they are not liberal.

    We have discussed before that NS is a German ideology designed to meet the needs of the German people as a nation. Germany has no interest in improving her enemies; it is pointless and potentially harmful to try and convince others of our ideological constructs. The significance of NS is not that it is NS, it is the fact that it is our creation. The significance of Hitler is not that he is Hitler, it is the fact that he was our creation and our leader.

    The American attempts to separate us from our ideas and our history in preparation for a conversion to Americanism are monstrously hostile in their intent and Eliminationist in their consequences. To free themselves of this imposed mental cage and death trap is the first task and duty of every German who wants to remain German.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimner View Post
    Dagna, The Objective point is that with the questionable company that jew Riesman keeps his argumente against NS is tainted, much like your own. He is using the concept of Marxist socialism and likening it with NS in order to further repel people from this worthy Folk based socialism which seeks to build a people, he is furthering the capitalist al encompassing control over our lives. This is what jews like himself excel at, blurring & confusing terms. So don’t jump on your high liberty horse.
    Criticizing the author's person and ethnicity instead of his theory is an ad hominem. Hardly an objective argument. There are many Jews who are pro National Socialism, if not National Socialists themselves. Jews are not a monolith.

    Of course he is using the concept of Marxist socialism. Do you know of another kind of socialism? Socialism is the invention of Marxists. If you would like to refute the theory that the Socialism in National Socialism is not Marxist socialism, I am all ears.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hauke Haien View Post
    A surprising reply, considering your repeated attempts to label NS as Jewish. Since that came to nothing and also threatens to undermine your own position, it is strategically sound to try a different attack vector.
    I have indeed said that it stems from Judaist and Zionist ideas. Zionism is Jewish National Socialism. I am not using a different attack vector. I stick to what I said. National Socialism has Judaic origins and Jewish involvement. The Socialism in National Socialism is just another set of proof, as Socialism is a Marxist and Jewish invention. This does not mean that all Jews are a monolith and that a Jew's argument about National Socialism is invalid because he is a Jew. I repeat what I have said: the ethnicity of the author is irrelevant if we want to discuss objectively. If someone disagrees with a theory, criticize it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagna View Post
    The Socialism in National Socialism is just another set of proof, as Socialism is a Marxist and Jewish invention.
    Tell me, what socialist principles did Hitler implement, which previous rulers of Germany didn't implement (including those before Marx was even born)?
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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