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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger View Post
    This is correct, but those who think that their blood, or their community, have no bearing at all, will ultimately fail as well.
    Yes. Our blood though needs to be reinforced with action. Both action and blood make us who we are and the challenges we face determine what we become.

    I agree, but just not resigning does not imply success, you can still fail.
    Absolutely right. One must have ability, as well as resolve and perseverance. But one need not be born with ability, it can be gained.

    Even more so, if you resign, or not, might be something controlled by blood.
    No doubt. Both blood and external influences shape our destiny.

    Examples of people who once failed, but later achieved success do not contradict this statement in any way.
    If one resigns to failure, then I agree, if one refuses to resign, either we have a stubborn masochist who likes walking into walls or one who believes in himself. I would put my money on the latter.



    I am not disagreeing with your analysis, I disagree with your conclusion.
    My conclusion is based on the primary sickness of our people residing in the mind. I believe this must be overcome first. Since it is a sickness of the mind, the cure resides in renewed thought.

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    This is true. Our genes limit our potential somewhat but our mindset also limits it even more. The will can triumph over a lot. One study they did with kids they had one group and told them they were smart. Another group they told them they did well because they worked hard. In the long run the group that believed hard work=success did better than the ones who thought they would get by on their inborn talents. That is because the ones who thought they were naturally smart would not challenge themselves to do better. They didn't reach their full potential.

    To accomplish great things you must take great risks. Look at very wealthy/successful people. They loose millions and gain millions overnight. People who becaame rock stars they came very near to being bums. But you suffer the fruits of your risks.

    Can you create a genius? I don't think so. I think you can improve society by allowing more people to reach their full potential. Most people are fat lazy slobs but with a little motivation could get off the couch and be in fair shape. Doesn't mean they will be super athletes, but at least be better. The same thing with people's mental states. Your genes basically set the cieling, they determine your maximum ability, your environment and your will can cause you to never come close to those possibilities.

    I have to agree though no matter how much education you give a moron he will never become a genius and this is the flaw of marxist/liberal belief.

    Madness- higher than average intelligence, creativity etc. lead to madness. anytime you are different from people around you it can be psychologically disturbing and damaging some can deal with it some can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindefense View Post
    Yes.
    Thus, not all men can achieve greatness.
    "Nothing is more disgusting than the majority: because it consists of a few powerful predecessors, of rogues who adapt themselves, of weak who assimilate themselves, and the masses who imitate without knowing at all what they want." (Johann Wolfgang Goethe)

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    contrived

    How the world at large determines genius, greatness and madness is contrived anyway. Countless fall through the cracks because of this means of measuring immeasurable things. Others live their lives aware and simply transcend the rediculousness of it all. Either way the world loses. Perhaps the time has come again when it is recognized that the sparks of genius, greatness and madness reside in each of us. This infinite array of light might well save the planet before She decides enough is enough and we follow countless other species into extinction. It points compellingly to the absurdity of racism and nationalism when the entire planet is in peril. Trust me She will prevail, with or without us. The strong, weak and disinfranchised will perish together if we fail to get it right.

    Deepest regards,
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    That's why we seek to create a new humanity. We believe ourselves (our ideals) to be superior. We understand that most of humanity will not see this, but our truth will lie in results. I don't care if other people see me as a genius. It would be nice if people treated me better, but its of little matter. So long as I can create a group of superior people we will be more successful than others. The rightness of our views are measured by their success. If a genius has ideals or produces things which are of no use then he is not a genius per se. If it cannot be measured or seen in any way.

    I believe the weak and the stupid are leading society into peril. If I accept them as equals then I will share their fate. Only by admitting that I'm better and seperating from those people and seeking to improve myself and my group and live by a higher standard will I flourish. Your liberal nonsense has so many logical fallacies in it. I guess if I just hold hands with a bunch of retards and criminals that suddenly the wounds of the planet will heal themselves.

    We're all geniuses and capable of the same. lol Come on the basic premise of this entire forum is that none of us believes that.

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    For Rainman

    Wow. I think you need to go up on the mountain and get yourself straight.

    "It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
    Wm. Shakespeare

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    Consumerism has made "culture" a cheap, vile thing that often has nothing to do with what is most meaningful.

    I don't think culture has entirely been erased though, it's just obscured by this.

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    Interesting video on degeneration of culture:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZeZlkttx7M
    Let truth and falsehood grapple...truth is strong-
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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    It is up to yourself to decide if you want to watch TV or not.
    Sure, for ourselves, but we cannot control what the majority of the folk body chooses to take into their minds through the television. A man is no island, and if you do manage to isolate your family or even a few families, culture at large will be formed and deformed around you by those who control the media. Look what they have done over the past 50 years...

    This is what children were being taught about how people were supposed to relate to each other in 1965:

    My Three Sons


    And this is what they were being taught in 2005:

    Will and Grace


    We have to live in the same world with the people who grew up relating to these characters as "normal." What do you suppose that world will be like?
    Most people think as they are trained to think, and most people make a majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    Sure, for ourselves, but we cannot control what the majority of the folk body chooses to take into their minds through the television. A man is no island, and if you do manage to isolate your family or even a few families, culture at large will be formed and deformed around you by those who control the media. Look what they have done over the past 50 years...

    This is what children were being taught about how people were supposed to relate to each other in 1965:

    My Three Sons


    And this is what they were being taught in 2005:

    Will and Grace


    We have to live in the same world with the people who grew up relating to these characters as "normal." What do you suppose that world will be like?
    You can choose to watch it, of course, but it's like saying "You can choose to huff spray paint": there would be no real reason to and it destroys your mind. They call it "Programming" for a good reason...
    Let truth and falsehood grapple...truth is strong-
    John Milton

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