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    Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past

    A photograph of the Iranian president holding up his identity card during elections in March 2008 clearly shows his family has Jewish roots.

    The short note scrawled on the card suggests his family changed its name to Ahmadinejad when they converted to embrace Islam after his birth.

    The Sabourjians traditionally hail from Aradan, Mr Ahmadinejad's birthplace, and the name derives from "weaver of the Sabour", the name for the Jewish Tallit shawl in Persia. The name is even on the list of reserved names for Iranian Jews compiled by Iran's Ministry of the Interior.

    Experts last night suggested Mr Ahmadinejad's track record for hate-filled attacks on Jews could be an overcompensation to hide his past.

    Ali Nourizadeh, of the Centre for Arab and Iranian Studies, said: "This aspect of Mr Ahmadinejad's background explains a lot about him.

    "Every family that converts into a different religion takes a new identity by condemning their old faith.

    "By making anti-Israeli statements he is trying to shed any suspicions about his Jewish connections. He feels vulnerable in a radical Shia society."

    A London-based expert on Iranian Jewry said that "jian" ending to the name specifically showed the family had been practising Jews.

    "He has changed his name for religious reasons, or at least his parents had," said the Iranian-born Jew living in London. "Sabourjian is well known Jewish name in Iran."

    A spokesman for the Israeli embassy in London said it would not be drawn on Mr Ahmadinejad's background. "It's not something we'd talk about," said Ron Gidor, a spokesman.

    The Iranian leader has not denied his name was changed when his family moved to Tehran in the 1950s. But he has never revealed what it was change from or directly addressed the reason for the switch.

    Relatives have previously said a mixture of religious reasons and economic pressures forced his blacksmith father Ahmad to change when Mr Ahmadinejad was aged four.

    The Iranian president grew up to be a qualified engineer with a doctorate in traffic management. He served in the Revolutionary Guards militia before going on to make his name in hardline politics in the capital.

    During this year's presidential debate on television he was goaded to admit that his name had changed but he ignored the jibe.

    However Mehdi Khazali, an internet blogger, who called for an investigation of Mr Ahmadinejad's roots was arrested this summer.

    Mr Ahmadinejad has regularly levelled bitter criticism at Israel, questioned its right to exist and denied the Holocaust. British diplomats walked out of a UN meeting last month after the Iranian president denounced Israel's 'genocide, barbarism and racism.'

    Benjamin Netanyahu made an impassioned denunciation of the Iranian leader at the same UN summit. "Yesterday, the man who calls the Holocaust a lie spoke from this podium," he said. "A mere six decades after the Holocaust, you give legitimacy to a man who denies the murder of six million Jews while promising to wipe out the State of Israel, the State of the Jews. What a disgrace. What a mockery of the charter of the United Nations."

    Mr Ahmadinejad has been consistently outspoken about the Nazi attempt to wipe out the Jewish race. "They have created a myth today that they call the massacre of Jews and they consider it a principle above God, religions and the prophets," he declared at a conference on the holocaust staged in Tehran in 2006.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...wish-past.html

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    I think we were all aware that he is Semitic.

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    The area that once was Mesopotamia is and was a melting pot of semetic and other races.You dont have to even travel to that part of the world to see how skrewed up these people are,just turn on the news.It is amazing how our great heritage and kulture always seems to get caught stepping in the garbage that is the middle east.As long as the jews are our governments puppet masters this will continue to happen

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    I don't believe the claim that he's jewish. There's a chance this is just another attempt to smear a prominent person who has been labeled an anti-semite(ie: Adolph Hitler). According to the History Channel, Magda Goebels(very likely spelled incorrectly) was involved with a jew in her early years, and was planning on moving to Israel with him. You just can't take what our media says about so-called anti-semites seriously.
    Even if Ahmadinejad is jewish by blood, he shouldn't be criticized for having sympathy for the displaced Palestinians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flemish View Post
    I don't believe the claim that he's jewish. There's a chance this is just another attempt to smear a prominent person who has been labeled an anti-semite(ie: Adolph Hitler). According to the History Channel, Magda Goebels(very likely spelled incorrectly) was involved with a jew in her early years, and was planning on moving to Israel with him. You just can't take what our media says about so-called anti-semites seriously.
    Even if Ahmadinejad is jewish by blood, he shouldn't be criticized for having sympathy for the displaced Palestinians.
    Well as I have said in the past, an enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend. He is a punk and he needs a good ass wuppin' He is a religious islamic nut job and I hope the jews or someone else takes care of his perisan goat smellin' behind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flemish View Post
    I don't believe the claim that he's jewish. There's a chance this is just another attempt to smear a prominent person who has been labeled an anti-semite(ie: Adolph Hitler). According to the History Channel, Magda Goebels(very likely spelled incorrectly) was involved with a jew in her early years, and was planning on moving to Israel with him. You just can't take what our media says about so-called anti-semites seriously.
    Even if Ahmadinejad is jewish by blood, he shouldn't be criticized for having sympathy for the displaced Palestinians.
    His known background is Azeri Turk, and his policy is anti-Persian:


    The Policy of Turkification of Iran

    Azeri Pan Turkism talks about uniting the "Iranian" or "Iranic" people, whatever that means. But their true aims is to unite with The Republic of Azerbaijan and bring more Azeri turks into Iran in order to dominate Iran. Also it uses the "Iranian" cover and pretending to fight Anatolian Pan Turks. In reality Azeris are real turks and their Pan-Iranism is the same as their Pan-Turkism but adjusted for the political conditions in Iran.

    Azeri Turks try instead to impose Azeri turk culture on Iran and eliminate all other ethnic groups and replace them with Azeri Turks. These policies are promoted under the cover of Islam which is itself a cover for Azeri Turk culture.

    Azeri Turk policies are supported by Jews who try to manufacture an "Aryan Iranian" history for Azeri Turks. In order to keep their "Iranian" cover the Azeri Turk ruling elite also suppresses ordinary Azeris who demand their language and ethnic rights. In summary Pan Turkism in Iran has a complete different form from Turkey. The main difference is Pan Turkism in Iran uses "Iranian" label and it uses religion to promote its policies. It does not use Azeri Turk language as it is not politically possible. It tries to impose its Azeri Turk culture on the natives of Iran.

    The policies of Turkification targets the Persian minority and tries to destroy the Persians as an ethnic minority and replace them with Azeri Turks. The policy is based in destroying the structure of Iranian population where Azeris live in separate and far away provinces from provinces where Persians live and tries to mix the Azeri population with Persian population. Azeri Turks are moved to Non-Turk provinces and Natives are moved to Azerbaijan.

    Unlike the Nazi Germany which believed in the superiority of German Race, the ruling Azeri regime in Tehran believes in the inferiority of the Azeri Turkish race. This is nazism in reverse. So they believe that to improve the Azeri race they mix Azeris with Persians and other natives of Iran such as Kurds. One of their special targets are Kurds and Persians which they force to move to Tehran. They officially call this agenda for "The Aryanization of Azeri Turks into Aryans".

    Many afghans have stated that Iran is culturally as alien to Afghans as Pakistanis are and they do not recognize any common cultural bonds between Afghans and Iranians(Azeri Turks). At the same time other Afghan refugees who have crossed into Khorasan province have stated according to United Nation reports that they did not notice they are in foreign country when they did live in Khorasan where the real Persians live and they felt at home.

    You can read the rest here:
    http://azeriturks.blogspot.com/

    The Jewish involvement:

    The whole Islamic revolution was engineered by US under Carter administration to shift the power from Persian elements under the Shah to Azeri Turk elements. The reason for this are two two fold:

    Firstly, the democratic party in US is associated with Jews and Jews always promote turks as their allies. Azeri Turks are close relatives of Jews who are actually mixed with Khazar Jews since 6 century A.D. Azerbaijan was the scene of number of invasions by Khazar Jews at that time.

    Secondly Jews worldwide agenda for destruction of ethnic groups and ethnic distinictions in the world specially target Persians for destruction as they have aryan origin. Jews shows special hostility to people with aryan origin. These Jews have been responsible for the murder of thousands of people both in Iran and Afghanistan through their proxies, Azeri Turks and Talibans.

    -Taken from the same article here:
    http://azeriturks.blogspot.com

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    Ahmadinejad has no Jewish roots

    Rumours that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's family converted to Islam from Judaism are false. In fact, they are proud Shias

    In June 2005, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's meteoric rise from mayor of Tehran to president of one of the most influential countries in the Middle East took everyone by surprise. One of the main reasons for the astonishment was that so little was known about him.

    One recently published claim about his background comes from an article in the Daily Telegraph. Entitled "Mahmoud Ahmadinejad revealed to have Jewish past", it claims that his family converted to Islam after his birth. The claim is based on a number of arguments, a key one being that his previous surname was Sabourjian which "derives from weaver of the sabour, the name for the Jewish tallit shawl in Persia".

    Professor David Yeroshalmi, author of The Jews of Iran in the 19th century and an expert on Iranian Jewish communities, disputes the validity of this argument. "There is no such meaning for the word 'sabour' in any of the Persian Jewish dialects, nor does it mean Jewish prayer shawl in Persian. Also, the name Sabourjian is not a well-known Jewish name," he stated in a recent interview. In fact, Iranian Jews use the Hebrew word "tzitzit" to describe the Jewish prayer shawl. Yeroshalmi, a scholar at Tel Aviv University's Center for Iranian Studies, also went on to dispute the article's findings that the "-jian" ending to the name specifically showed the family had been practising Jews. "This ending is in no way sufficient to judge whether someone has a Jewish background. Many Muslim surnames have the same ending," he stated.

    Upon closer inspection, a completely different interpretation of "Sabourjian" emerges. According to Robert Tait, a Guardian correspondent who travelled to Ahmadinejad's native village in 2005, the name "derives from thread painter – sabor in Farsi – a once common and humble occupation in the carpet industry in Semnan province, where Aradan is situated". This is confirmed by Kasra Naji, who also wrote a biography of Ahmadinejad and met his family in his native village. Carpet weaving or colouring carpet threads are not professions associated with Jews in Iran.

    According to both Naji and Tait, Ahmadinejad's father Ahmad was in fact a religious Shia, who taught the Quran before and after Ahmadinejad's birth and their move to Tehran. So religious was Ahmad Sabourjian that he bought a house near a Hosseinieh, a religious club that he frequented during the holy month of Moharram to mourn the martyrdom of Imam Hossein.

    Moreover, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's mother is a Seyyede. This is a title given to women whose family are believed to be direct bloodline descendants of Prophet Muhammad. Male members are given the title of Seyyed, and include prominent figures such as Iran's supreme leader Ali Khamenei. In Judaism, this is equivalent to the Cohens, who are direct descendants of Aaron, the brother of Moses. One has to be born into a Seyyed family: the title is never given to Muslims by birth, let alone converts. This makes it impossible for Ahmadinejad's mother to have been a Jew. In fact, she was so proud of her lineage that everyone in her native village of Aradan referred to her by her Islamic title, Seyyede.

    The reason that Ahmadinejad's father changed his surname has more to do with the class struggle in Iran. When it became mandatory to adopt surnames, many people from rural areas chose names that represented their professions or that of their ancestors. This made them easily identifiable as townfolk. In many cases they changed their surnames upon moving to Tehran, in order to avoid snobbery and discrimination from residents of the capital.

    The Sabourjians were one of many such families. Their surname was related to carpet-making, an industry that conjures up images of sweatshops. They changed it to Ahmadinejad in order to help them fit in. The new name was also chosen because it means from the race of Ahmad, one of the names given to Muhammad.

    According to Ahmadinejad's relatives the new name emphasised the family's piety and their dedication to their religion and its founder. This is something that the president and his relatives in Tehran and Aradan have maintained to the present day. Not because they are trying to deny their past, but because they are proud of it.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...-jewish-family

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    There are quite some Jews living in Iran. It is said that in 1979 there lived a 100.000 Jews in Iran, most fled to Israël and such and now there should be about 20.000. I read most of them are moving towards Turkey (?), Austria (!), Israël and USA.

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    This is a falsehood. Same tactic used to smear Hitler.

    See here and here.
    EDIT: Completely missed the Angel of Death's followup post.

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