Do You Consider Armenoids European?

[Matrix]

If someone from Europe is classified as Armenoid, does that disqualify him from being an European?
Is it miscegenation if an European marries and reproduces with an Armenoid from his country?

[Æmeric]

What about Dinarid? Isn't Armenid & Dinarid closely related?

[Bradford]

I don't, but by golly would an Armenian be sad to hear that.

[Æmeric]

I don't think the question in the original post refers to Armenians but to persons classified as Armeniod racially. The "Are Armenians European?" is a whole other topic.

[Bradford]

I don't think the question in the original post refers to Armenians but to persons classified as Armeniod racially. The "Are Armenians European?" is a whole other topic.

Well can I see a picture of typical Armenoid?

[Sigurd]

They certainly fall with the Europ(o)id racial spectrum, but whether they are actually European may depend totally on several factors, and whether they are indigenous to the country is dependant upon the area concerned: An Armenoid is perhaps not an alien sight in Bulgaria, but certainly in Sweden.

As such, if you meet a person claiming to be Swedish who classifies as Armenoid, you should have all your alarm bells ringing, there's probably a Jewish ancestor, potentially an illegitimate one, somewhere in the woodpile.

[Kogen]

I do not get this poll.

How is an Asian European?

[Genfluss]

If they are Armenoid/Littorid British Islanders, then yes they're European. Some Armenoid Balkaners are also considered European as well both genetically & culturally. Armenoid elements could have easily arrived from the Near East (Neolithic Period) into Europe thousands of years ago, and doesn't necessarily equate with recent Ashkenazi heritage in the woodpile

[Nachtengel]

Matrix most likely is asking about the racial Armenoid type, not whether the Armenian people are European.

This is the Armenoid racial type:

Armenoid (also known as Assyroid by Deniker[1]) is a term coined at about 1900 by an Assyriologist, the race was defined in English by Carleton S. Coon in The Races of Europe. The borderland between Europe and Asia and the people were also called Armenoid. [2]

Carleton wrote that the racial type in question is very similar to the Dinaric race; the only difference is that they have a somewhat darker pigmentation, most probably due to racial mixture with the Mediterraneans and the Alpines. He described the Armenoid as a subrace of the Caucasoid race. The Armenoid people are found throughout the whole Eurasia, however the largest concentrations occur within Asia Minor. They are known as the "true" Caucasians. Armenoids are relatively tall, usually have somewhat darker skins, large round eyes usually black; a round, brachycephalic head shape with a straight backing (planocciput), high cheekbones and non-prominent chins. Lips are full usually with often hooked noses. This racial group includes the Armenians, the Assyrians, the kurds, the Anatolians, and the people from the Caucasus. It is also an element in India and Southern Europe. Armenoid is the dominant type of the indigenous Semitic groups of Syria and Mesopotamia: the ancient Amorites, the modern Assyrians and Chaldeans, the religious minorities of Lebanon and Syria, and the Lebanese and Syrians of mountainous regions have all been identified as being of the Armenoid type. [3] [4] [5]

Renato Biasutti described the Armenoid race as havig: "Opaque-white skin, brunet hair and eyes, abbundant pilosity; medium stature (166), sturdy body build; wide head with rounded occiput (87); very long face, straight and narrow nose (57) with high bridge; thin lips, narrow eye opening."[6]

The Armenoid is also a member of the Caucasoid race. [7]

“ It has long been believed by physical anthropologists that the quintessence of Near Eastern brachycephaly is to be found in the Armenians; the racial term Armenoid being named for them. The Armenians have long been established in the territory which is now only partly theirs; they had, before the arrival of the Turks, a powerful kingdom, which covered most of the territory between the Gulf of Alexandretta and the Caucasus. [8]

References

1. ^ http://www.nordish.net/snpa/gloss1.htm#ASSYROID
2. ^ The Races of Europe: A Sociological Study - Page 444 by William Zebina Ripley
3. ^ History of Syria, Including Lebanon and Palestine - page 76 by Philip Khuri Hitti
4. ^ Review: An Introduction to the Anthropology of the Near East by C. U. Ariëns Kappers, American Anthropologist, 37(35) - Pages 148-49 by W.M. Krogman
5. ^ Syria and Lebanon: A Political Essay - Page 96 by A.H. Hourani
6. ^ http://dienekes.110mb.com/texts/biasutticaucasoid/
7. ^ Lebanon in History from the Earliest Times to the Present - Page 61 by Philip Khuri Hitti
8. ^ The Races of Europe by Carleton Stevens Coon - (Chapter XII, section 18)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenoid_race

Some Armenoids:

Armenian Armenoids





Lebanese Armenoid Arab



The typical Jew is Armenoid



Lundman's Armenoid



Dinarid is considered to be the Nordid-Armenoid type. These are Dinarids:



Dinarid is considered one of the seven German races, so it is acceptable to be considered German if you are Dinarid.

One of the differences between Dinarid and Armenoid is the nose shape. Dinarids have an eagle-shaped nose, while Armenoids have a hook-nose.

Dinarid nose

[Blod og Jord]

They certainly fall with the Europ(o)id racial spectrum, but whether they are actually European may depend totally on several factors, and whether they are indigenous to the country is dependant upon the area concerned: An Armenoid is perhaps not an alien sight in Bulgaria, but certainly in Sweden.

As such, if you meet a person claiming to be Swedish who classifies as Armenoid, you should have all your alarm bells ringing, there's probably a Jewish ancestor, potentially an illegitimate one, somewhere in the woodpile.

To be honest,
if you meet a Mediterranean or Dinaric Scandinavian,
or anyone with dark traits,
you also wonder if they don't have some non-indigenous ancestry.
But that doesn't mean they aren't European.
Europe is diverse.