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    Smile Contemporary Austrian Specimens

    Some notable people of prominence (origin in brackets), with personal "over-the-counter" classification:

    Mirjam Weichselbraun (Tyrol) - infantilised Faelid/Nordid


    Jasmin Ouschan (Carinthia) - Sub-Nordid


    Patricia Mayr (Tyrol) - Dinarid/Nordid intermediate


    Jürgen Melzer (Lower Austria) - Keltic-Nordid


    Stefan Koubek (Carinthia) - somewhat Alpiniform Nordid.


    Stefan Maierhofer (Lower Austria) - dark-pigmented Nordid


    Kurt Waldheim (Lower Austria) - Norid


    Alexander Wurz (Lower Austria) - Nordid


    Anna Fenninger (Salzburg) - Alpinid


    Gerhard Berger (Tyrol) - Alpinid/Dinarid/Nordid intermediate, or "Keltified Nordified Alpinid". As Austrian a face as it gets. :wink


    Werner Faymann (Vienna) - Dinarid + some Alpinid.


    Wolfgang Schüssel (Vienna) - Alpinid


    Heinz-Christian Strache (Vienna) - slightly alpinised Keltic-Nordid


    Jörg Haider (Upper Austria) - dinarid-leaning Keltic-Nordid


    Andreas Kofler (Tyrol) - pred. Atlantid, somewhat "Keltified"


    Arnold Schwarzenegger (Styria) - Keltified Faelid


    Alf Poier (Styria) - Heavily Alpinised Keltic-Nordid.


    Susanne Riess-Passer (Upper Austria) - Very Alpinid.


    Walter Schachner [in young years ] (Styria) - Nordid/Dinarid intermediate


    Bruno Pezzey (Vorarlberg) - Atlantid/Dinarid intermediate


    Hans Krankl (Vienna) - Dinarid/Alpinid.


    Marc Janko (Vienna) - Nordid with some Dinaroid influence.


    Christoph Waltz (Vienna) - Keltid-Nordid or at least a "Keltified" version along the Atlantonordoid spectrun


    Franz Klammer (Carinthia) - At least somewhat Alpinoid


    Renate Götschl (Styria) - directly between Sub-Nordid and Norid.


    Feel free to add anymore, including the same formatting that I have used, if you wish to do so!
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
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    Adolf Hitler (Innviertel) Keltic nordic w/ alpinid & CM


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    I smell Jewish in at least two of these specimens, and the 3rd is uncertain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todesengel View Post
    I smell Jewish in at least two of these specimens, and the 3rd is uncertain.
    Poier, Faymann and Waldheim?

    Poier is from Judenburg, Styria - the town humorously referred to as being most inaptly named for having not a single Jew sinced the "Displaced Person" camp after WWII was dissoled.

    Faymann I've toyed with as well, it would be mentioned however. I find no reference either way, but I doubt he was Jewish. His politics are a bit like that, but this would be known, the SPÖ has never made a secret of its Jewish prominents. This is the only one where I can't categorically exclude Jewish ancestry.

    Waldheim as an ex-member of the SA Equestrian Corps would not have been Jewish. His somewhat "offish" look could be explained by having some Czech ancestry, though, his father's surname was Watzlawick.

    Two others would "be possible" as Jews but are excluded categorically, by association:

    Berger - so sure there's been some Jews with that name (Richard Berger, leading Jew in Innsbruck that perished in the Reichskristallnacht), so sure he had a rich corporate father. But a Jewish family owning a truck-driven logistics company, come off it!

    Pezzey - So sure he's a little a little swarthy with curls. The name is said "Petsoi" which minds of a Ladin origin to the original name, would essentially give it the same derivation as the name Petz and Petzer.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    Is Waldheim typical of the Noric type? He looks quite... off. How would Czech ancestry affect that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey View Post
    Is Waldheim typical of the Noric type? He looks quite... off. How would Czech ancestry affect that?
    He is not typical of the Norid type, however he is an extreme and textbook example of the Norid type: meaning that he exhibits in good prominence all stereotypical characteristics of the type.

    We must not make the mistake confuse "textbook examples" with "typical examples" --- typical Skandnonordids don't look like Max von Sydow, typical Keltic-Nordids don't look like Tony Blair and typical Borrebies don't look like Brock Lesnar.

    Waldheim looks no more offish than any other "extreme" examples like Steffi Graf (tennis player)...



    ... but certainly more offish than any "typical" examples like Reinhard Heydrich or Stephanie Graf (runner), where a clear Norid type is prevalent but the features are not as extreme..





    Either way, Waldheim's Czech ancestry does not affect that much at all, except that we commonly see a "North-Pontid" substrate (id est, Nordid + Pontid) amongst Czechs, which is why the Norid quality of Waldheim could be "Dinarid + Nordid-Pontid", which may make him look less typical to the Austrian and indeed, further Germanic eye than other such exemplars.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    Well Sigurd, wouldn´t be "contemporary Austro-Bavarian specimens" a better title? You´re Bavarian people from Austria. Maybe I´ll add some specimens of Bavarians from Bavaria later.

    "Judge of your natural character by what you do in your dreams" - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Poier, Faymann and Waldheim?

    Poier is from Judenburg, Styria - the town humorously referred to as being most inaptly named for having not a single Jew sinced the "Displaced Person" camp after WWII was dissoled.

    Faymann I've toyed with as well, it would be mentioned however. I find no reference either way, but I doubt he was Jewish. His politics are a bit like that, but this would be known, the SPÖ has never made a secret of its Jewish prominents. This is the only one where I can't categorically exclude Jewish ancestry.

    Waldheim as an ex-member of the SA Equestrian Corps would not have been Jewish. His somewhat "offish" look could be explained by having some Czech ancestry, though, his father's surname was Watzlawick.

    Two others would "be possible" as Jews but are excluded categorically, by association:

    Berger - so sure there's been some Jews with that name (Richard Berger, leading Jew in Innsbruck that perished in the Reichskristallnacht), so sure he had a rich corporate father. But a Jewish family owning a truck-driven logistics company, come off it!

    Pezzey - So sure he's a little a little swarthy with curls. The name is said "Petsoi" which minds of a Ladin origin to the original name, would essentially give it the same derivation as the name Petz and Petzer.
    Thanks for clearing it up. I suspected Poier and Faymann. Pezzey is swarthy for sure, but pigmentation alone isn't a ground to be suspicious. Waldheim despite not being Jewish, just like Egon Krenz, who is allegedly an ethnic German from Poland, looks a tad stereotypical. And yes, so does Steffi Graf. She reminds me a bit of Barbra Streisand. Maybe it's just the pseudo-Jewish look.

    The third I suspected was actually Christoph Waltz. The mystery of why he has a rabbi for a son was never solved. His mother's maiden name, Urbancic, also sounds Slavic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post




    A Surgeryoid strain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Stefan Maierhofer (Lower Austria) - dark-pigmented Nordid


    Marc Janko (Vienna) - Nordid with some Dinaroid influence.
    These two have unnaturally long necks. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen necks so long. Is this common in Austria? Or perhaps they are genetically engineered in hopes of producing better head shots..

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