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    The 9 November 1923 and Ernst Röhm's book 'Die Geschichte eines Hochverräters' (1928)

    I have just finished translating into English Ernst Röhm's book Die Geschichte eines Hochverräters (Franz Eher Verlag, 1928).

    When he wrote this book, Röhm was obliged to render an honest account under the Reichsschutzgesetz (Law for the Protection of the Republic). Therefore what he says may be relied upon with more confidence than say, any book written by a modern scholar specializing in the German history of the period.

    I am astonished to discover that the events of 8/9 November 1923 are not as modern history relates them. History has been falsified if what Röhm says is true.

    Can somebody please write in a few words what they think happened at the Bürgerbräukeller, War Ministry and Feldherrnhalle on that night and the subsequent afternoon and why? The purpose is to judge the extent of the deception by historians.

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    The "Beer Hall Putsch"

    From some of the old timers I've talked to, who were in Munich at the time (and members of the Frei-Corps), it was a state of hyperinflation, starvation, a failed economy and massive unemployment. All the political groups went nuts, began rioting in the streets and screaming about taking over the Federal Government and eliminating traitors... Somehow, word got out to the Bavarian Frei-Corps and the riots were put down with extreme prejudice. End of Discussion...

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    The so-called Beer Hall Putsch is usually described as Hitler's attempt to stage a coup - against whom?

    The only contemporary description of what happened on 8/9 Novenber 1923 is contained in Ernst Röhm's book, and the work of modern academics does not coincide with what Röhm says. Here again we must suspect political influences in modern times remoulding the past for us.

    In brief, following on from the causes elucidated by "wittwer" above, from about mid-September 1923 a Triumvirate was formed in Bavaria with Government and probably royal support to overthrow the Reich Government.

    This triumvirate consisted of:
    Gustav von Kahr - Bavarian President given the position of Commissioner-General by the Bavarian Government and approved by the Crown Prince, Rupprecht.
    General von Lossow - Military Governor of Bavaria, commander-in-chief of military forces in Bavaria
    Colonel von Seisser - Military Governor of Munich City

    Kahr rescinded the Weimar Constitution in Bavaria, stopped the remission of money and taxes to Berlin and prevented transport proceeding there. He declared that he would not talk with Berlin and intended to stage a coup. Lossow confirmed that it was the only answer to the problems confronting Germany and Bavaria.

    No coup would have been possible without the involvement of the latter two Reichswehr officers because they commanded the Army in Bavaria. The open support for the triumvirate came from the Kampfbund. This federation, composed of three armed militia of about 3000 men, the SA, Freikorps Oberland and the Reichskriegsflagge, had Adolf Hitler as its political leader and Lt-Colonel Kriebel as its military leader. The federation would march with the Reichswehr, but would not have been sufficient to overthrow the Reich Government without Reichswehr support.

    The falsified accepted history states that at about 2300 hrs on the night of 8 November 1923, the Triumvirate was taken into custody by Hitler and his followers at the Bürgerbräukeller. Why would Hitler do that? Röhm states that the President, Knilling, and the Bavarian Government was detained, but not the Triumvirate which spent the next hour or so celebrating.

    Röhm as leader of the Reichskriegsflagge militia received orders to hold the War Ministry building until relieved, which he did. According to his narrative, it was betwen 0100 and 0200 on the morning of 9 November that the Triumvirate was detained, not by Hitler, but by senior Reichwehr officers and convinced "of the error of their ways". Nothing was communicated to the Kampfbund, and a state of uncertainty existed until that afternoon.

    All the confusion of what happened next arises from the need of the authorities to conceal the conspiracy planned by the Triumvirate. This was the reason why the treason trials were such a farce and no Kampfbund man - nine accused - served more than eighteen months jail time for it

    The SA and NSDAP led by Hitler and Hindenburg, believing that the Triumvirate had been kidnapped by Government forces and was being held at the Feldherrnhalle, marched there to free them. Before the building they encountered the police line which opened fire with the result that fourteen NSDAP men and four State police lost their lives.

    In an incident at the War Ministry occupied by Röhm's Reichskriegsflagge, two men, Lt Theodor Casella and Martin Faust, were shot dead as the result of a misunderstanding. Thus the total of NSDAP dead was sixteen. The academic version of the Beer Hall Putsch does not mention the seizure and occupation of the War Ministry building for some reason about which I am not yet clear.

    I never thought the day would come when I would hail that plump sweetie Ernst Röhm as a true historian over modern confused acadmics.

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    November 9, the highest holiday in the NS calendar

    In my view this one even more points on the Real Cult (Cult of Sacrifice for the Cause). The footage is from what i identify as a November 9 Ceremony in Munich (e.g. to honor the "fallen" of the movement in Hitler's violent protest on November 9, 1923 that lead to his arrest), the song is the traditional "Ich hatt einen Kameraden" (I had a comrade...).

    This one has it all, e.g. what Oswald Spengler called the "Cult of Sacrifice and Death" of the National-Socialists.

    The title is somewhat misleading as the November 9 was the highest holiday in the calendar of the movement (and not military as the title suggests).

    Judging from Hitler's robe it was already war times, but due to the presence of Rudolf Hess it was early in the. war. So it is either the November 9, 1939 or 1940 footage.


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