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    Why is There No Medicism, Slavicism, Celticism and the Like?

    I support Medicism, Slavicism, Celticism and other forms of ethnocentric segregation. If Slavs and Meds want to think they are superior and we Germanics are the inferiors, then let them. It's not objective, but it's fine enough with me, because it would mean they would stick to their own ethnic and racial preservation, and us to ours.
    But that doesn't happen. Most internet Slavs and Meds are pan-Europeans, who always complain why Germanics want to segregate, why they're not liked in our ranks, why we don't consider mixing fine, and the sort.
    Why isn't the feeling of ethnocentrism so strong in other Europeans as in Germanics, could someone explain?

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    I thought Slavs often openly identified as being Slavs, at least more than Mediterranean (or Latin preferably) and Germanic people. For example you see many football teams with the name "Slavia" or "Slavija". Does anyone know how the Soviet Union viewed Slavicism? Did they think it was good in order to keep the eastern European countries together (since they were mostly Slavic)?

    Anyways, I agree that Medicism/Latinism and Slavicism, and I neither have a problem if they see themselves as being superior over other groups, since that will just be better for each people's preservation.

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    Slavicism exists a little bit, but we call it pan-Slavism here. However many Slavic peoples oppose it, because there are quarrels between them. They don't want a new Yugoslavia to exist. Peoples like Serbs and Croats have intense hatred for each other's people.

    Medicism, hmm, I'm not sure what you mean, something as a Mediterranean Union? Because not all Latin countries are Mediterranean. Between the Latin countries there is even less cohesion than between the Germanic and Slavic ones.

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    Celtic and Slavic Heathenry

    Well, I know there are Celtic Heathen Reconstructist and Slavic Heathen Reconstructionist Groups. And, IIRC there are Roman & Hellenic Pagan Reconstructionist groups also.
    And they have the same or nearly the same emphasis on Heritage & Blood.
    I know a few Folks who are involved, or at least in contact with these groups.
    And, I applaud them.

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    I think one problem of Meds, Slavs and Celts is that their dominant time lies far back in the past. The Roman Empire, the Greece and Latin culture, the large Slavic kingdoms...all of them are long vanished. The dominating factor in Europe during the Middle Ages and the modern era were the Germanic tribes. The pacemakers of technology, enlightenment and development were (mainly) people of Germanic heritage.

    So I guess many Meds and Slavs have some kind of an inferiority complex regarding us Germanics. Our Germanic pride can nourish both from the past and from our achievements in modern time (minus the ideological degeneration of large parts of our societies in the second half of the 20th century , but that´s only a very recent development ) while the Meds and Slavs can only find pride in their particularly glorious past.

    Anyway, some bits of Medish and Slavic pride exists. The old board Stirpes was a hideout for some people with pro-Med and pro-Slavic orientation. And we shouldn´t forget that Skadi had also some people with such orientations before we´ve switched our board orientation to Germanic preservationism only.

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    Celts do have their own preservation aims but they tend to be more area specific and less all encompassing than Germanics, I agree with the statement that Germanics are the present and recent past dominators, therefore there are more of us and you will see more groups dedicated to their preservation and/or advancement.

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    I tend to notice this attitude in some Slavs, as well. They tend to get angry if you make statements about not including their countries in a Germanic Europe, not breeding with their women, and so on. Many try to say that they are just a cultural/language group - and while true in many regards, genetic studies show a clear line between Germanic Europe and Slavic Europe.

    There is also the issue they bring up concerning past wars. Obviously any Germanic person is going to take the side of their countries, yet Slavs get upset and expect us to take their side or take a neutral view. To me, it is impossible to take any form of neutral/positive views on Slavic agression in regions like Poland and Czech land; and certainly not Lenin/Stalinist Russia.

    I cannot really figure out how to deal with it, as nothing I have tried ever works. Whenever the discussion starts, everyone argues, hates eachother, then some Jesus-person comes in and says we should all love one another - followed by a locked topic or everyone simply being tired of the arguement.

    As for their own splits, I really cannot understand this either. Why do Croats and Serbs hate eachother because of a different dialect? You would rarely see someone Dutch and someone German acting like that in comparison. I see more unity in Germanic people than I do with them, even if we have less nationalists.

    For a final point, however, I do like them. Slavs are Europeans and not Mogoloids like some people like to say (are we Negroids because of America and so on?). It bothers me just as much to see a Slavic country losing its people and being swarmed with Muslims as it does seeing it happen in a Germanic country. I just feel that they need to accept we are different and that we can both co-exist on the same continent as we have done many times in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie View Post
    I think one problem of Meds, Slavs and Celts is that their dominant time lies far back in the past. The Roman Empire, the Greece and Latin culture, the large Slavic kingdoms...all of them are long vanished. The dominating factor in Europe during the Middle Ages and the modern era were the Germanic tribes. The pacemakers of technology, enlightenment and development were (mainly) people of Germanic heritage.

    So I guess many Meds and Slavs have some kind of an inferiority complex regarding us Germanics. Our Germanic pride can nourish both from the past and from our achievements in modern time (minus the ideological degeneration of large parts of our societies in the second half of the 20th century , but that´s only a very recent development ) while the Meds and Slavs can only find pride in their particularly glorious past.
    You keep out a not so tiny part of history, what about Italy and the Renaissance, which is throughout Latin in its core and the basis of most of Europe's later achievements in areas like philosophy, art and technology, Spain and its Empire and its European and world dominance, France and its Empire and the Napoleonic Wars and much more?

    I don't see why we or other European groups should have feelings of inferiority or superiority based on political or material achievements. Pride results out of the spiritual feeling for the kin you belong to. Unconfident ethnicity's and races always show the need of making bombastic statements on this or that achievement, as do the Negroes with their Afrocentristic History month in the United States.

    Spiritually we Germanics shouldn't be too happy about our situation, more so in regards of Latin and Slavic peoples, they have kept much, much more of their homogeneous social structure, be it in regards of their faith or moral convictions. Today the Germanic nations are the most liberal, individualistic decadent and socially lost, as you already spoke of, and then we can have all the technology we want, we as a people will end. I honestly doubt Slavic or Latin people for one care about Germanic ideas of our own superiority or envy us for our social situation at the moment, if they envy us for our wealth, then they are as lost as we are.

    our achievements in modern time
    I'm afraid our modern achievements go analogue with our moral destruction. I have heard of Italian crowds standing up against Gypsies, as did the Irish in Dublin, that is something to envy for us Germanics imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAjj View Post
    You keep out a not so tiny part of history, what about Italy and the Renaissance, which is throughout Latin in its core and the basis of most of Europe's later achievements in areas like philosophy, art and technology, Spain and its Empire and its European and world dominance, France and its Empire and the Napoleonic Wars and much more?

    I don't see why we or other European groups should have feelings of inferiority or superiority based on political or material achievements. Pride results out of the spiritual feeling for the kin you belong to. Unconfident ethnicity's and races always show the need of making bombastic statements on this or that achievement, as do the Negroes with their Afrocentristic History month in the United States.

    Spiritually we Germanics shouldn't be too happy about our situation, more so in regards of Latin and Slavic peoples, they have kept much, much more of their homogeneous social structure, be it in regards of their faith or moral convictions. Today the Germanic nations are the most liberal, individualistic decadent and socially lost, as you already spoke of, and then we can have all the technology we want, we as a people will end. I honestly doubt Slavic or Latin people for one care about Germanic ideas of our own superiority or envy us for our social situation at the moment, if they envy us for our wealth, then they are as lost as we are.



    I'm afraid our modern achievements go analogue with our moral destruction. I have heard of Italian crowds standing up against Gypsies, as did the Irish in Dublin, that is something to envy for us Germanics imo.
    She's right at least about the internet Slavs and Meds though, who are pan-Europeans and have an inferiority complex about Germanics. It seems like they're not proud enough of themselves, because it offends them that on a forum like Skadi there is some segregation and no more non-Germanics.

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    Well, there aren't many purely Celtic areas left in Europe, but where they exist they have been, at least until recently, a proud people with lots of fighting spirit. The Highlanders and the Irish fanatically resisted British multiculturalism for centuries.

    I don't know to much about Slavic or Latin nationalism, but from what I can see, they're in the predicament of wanting to be considered fully "white" Europeans, which hinders them from coming to terms with the fact that they each tend to have some extra-European blood in their veins, leading to an identity crisis of sorts.

    Whether one likes Celts or not, they are, like Germanics, true sons and daughters of Europe. I think this has traditionally served to foster a healthy sense of identity in both groups, even though Germanics have been the dominant of the two.

    The Celts are the underdogs in modern times, but I wouldn't at all be surprised if they're the first to begin physically resisting the status quo in Europe. If a group like the IRA ever returns to its right wing roots, traitors better watch out.

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