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    Differences in the Movement

    I'm sure you have all noticed the difference between movements in the Americas compared to the movements in European countries. many Americans nationalist embrace the idea of the European melting pot while Europeans themselves usually wish to keep each European ethnic group separate. My questions are...

    What problems within the combined movement could this create?

    Should European-Americans be held by a different standard seeing as how the majority are of mixed European ancestry?

    My personal view of the subject is that European-Americans, especially those of Germanic origins should breed a little more selectively.

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    If you are a pure Germanic then you should only seek partners who are too, but if you are mixed and many Europeans and Americans are then you can pick from any of your mixtures really. After all if you are 1/2 Germanic 1/8 Celtic 1/8 Slavic and 1/4 Romance then there is little point saying that that person must find someone of the same, that would just decrease the birth rate even further.

    My order of preference;
    Stick to your sub group,
    Stick to your country, (culture)
    Stick to the closest match, (one that has a history of interbreeding in your area)
    Stick to the North or South, (whichever you are)
    Stick to Europeans! (or their descendants)

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    I would say: stick to mating with other Germanics exclusively, while trying to upgrade your offspring sub-racially (whatever upgrading means to you: more progressive, more Nordid, stronger or more gracile, etc).

    Most people in the active workforce now have to move temporarily or relocate to earn their living. So this traditionally American dilemma has become true as well for all Germanics worldwide. But we should still be able to maintain the race, while adapting to globalization. This probably means accepting a certain level of inter-ethnic mating within the frame of racial preservation. That's where the Germanic meta-ethnic concept comes handy.

    Countries of origin, traditions, "cultures", etc don't really matter to me and even irritate me most of the time. I don't mind evolving to form a new Germanic meta-ethnicity adapted to globalization, combining the advantages and rooting out the disadvantages of the different original ethnicities. I believe that Inter-Germanic diversity is good for us. We're not Yougoslavs. We don't need to look only for someone of the same brogue.

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    I actually fear a little that the european-americans with their melting pot idea influence the european movements too much, because they see no problem with germanic-slavic-south european intermingling and they accuse europeans who oppose that idea of causing division and hurting the movement. For americans that's natural as most of them are mixed and they can't trace back their ancestry to a single european country/ethnicity.

    In that sense at least I think that the european and american movements should go separate ways. Personally I'm fine with migration between germanic nations, but other than that I think we should preserve our european diversity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinrich Harrer View Post
    I actually fear a little that the european-americans with their melting pot idea influence the european movements too much, because they see no problem with germanic-slavic-south european intermingling and they accuse europeans who oppose that idea of causing division and hurting the movement. For americans that's natural as most of them are mixed and they can't trace back their ancestry to a single european country/ethnicity.
    You would be surprised how many Americans can trace their ancestry back to a specific region in Europe. Many people when they immigrated to America settled within ethnic groups. I should know I am a product of that very ethnic settlement. Germans settled in certain areas, Norwegians settled in other ares, Swedes in another that is why different states have different ethnic groups. The Midwest is really a good example of this. Compared to Europe America is a very big place geographically and there was room for certain ethnic groups to remain somewhat isolated.

    The melting pot idea did not occur in all areas of the country. Mostly in the big cities. I am old enough to remember small rivalries between different ethnic groups Germans vs. Irish, Irish vs. Italians, German vs. Italians and nobody liked Pollocks.
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    I still can trace my family back Warwickshire England in even farther back than that to 1176 when our family earned its name.

    All that talk about how Americans are no longer of European blood is ignorance, you would be surprised of how many of us are still strong in our blood and the practice of keeping it true as well...

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    Good for you if you can trace back your ancestry to a single country, and you get additional credibility for "Pollocks". But I don't think it's representative for the average american outside of small isolated towns/settlements. Even those with preservationist attitudes I've "met" (chatted with) so far had ancestry from all over Europe (a little Scottish, English, Polish, Russian, German and maybe some Norwegian thrown in).

    I didn't say you're not european, I said that this melting pot idea which is very common in white nationalist movements in the US is a threat to european diversity. On Stormfront for example I've seen them talk badly about Skadi because it's for germanic people only. That's why I think that white preservationists in America and those in Europe should go separate ways in that different situations require different strategies.

    For them maintaining each ethnicity separately is impractical/illusory and they don't want to weaken their movement by causing internal division, but in Europe the different ethnicities are still largely separate and culturally different from each other and I wouldn't want to lose that.

    Of course white american individuals who still can trace back their european ancestry to a single or at least purely germanic origin and share the european mindset can be producitve members of the european movement. But there are differences in the movements at large.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinrich Harrer View Post
    Good for you if you can trace back your ancestry to a single country, and you get additional credibility for "Pollocks". But I don't think it's representative for the average american outside of small isolated towns/settlements. Even those with preservationist attitudes I've "met" (chatted with) so far had ancestry from all over Europe (a little Scottish, English, Polish, Russian, German and maybe some Norwegian thrown in).

    I didn't say you're not european, I said that this melting pot idea which is very common in white nationalist movements in the US is a threat to european diversity. On Stormfront for example I've seen them talk badly about Skadi because it's for germanic people only. That's why I think that white preservationists in America and those in Europe should go separate ways in that different situations require different strategies.
    Although Stormfront has its purposes I guess, to me and other Americans I know of German decent it serves us no purpose. There are large groups of Americans that are just interested in German/Germanic preservation. They may not be as radical as some on this site or Stormfront, but all the same they are very much into preserving there culture and heritage. The German/American Klubs(GAK) are a good example of this. I used to be more current on their national member numbers, but I know it is over 1 million range and has been for some years. One million plus people interested in Germanic cultural preservation is not a small amount by any standards. These are the people that could support maybe a less radical movement. I sometimes would like to think these are the backbone of good honest movements, not so much the radicals. If that be the case then both Europe and America as well as any Germanic settled land should be on the same page when it comes to a real large scale awareness of preservation.
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    The only way to preserve the Germanic populations that are in the Americas is if they go back to Europe. Once German Nationalist governments get into place I would expect them to bring the troops home from a country that has failed. These people will be necessary for the future of the Germanic people. It will decrease the % of the Muslim population and give the Germanics more power over them so they can eventually be completely removed without much bloodshed. Germanic immigration will also help in the regaining of lost Germanic homelands that have been lost since the last World War.

    Bringing in over 50 million Germanics from the rest of the world will help us achieve these lost lands:

    Karelia
    Bohemia
    Silesia
    Alscae-Lorraine
    Prussia
    Pomerania
    East Brandenburg
    South Tirol
    Posen
    Bratislava (Pressburg)
    South Austria (Slovenia)
    West Flanders (in France)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackeagle View Post
    The only way to preserve the Germanic populations that are in the Americas is if they go back to Europe.
    Why?

    Karelia
    Why help the Finno-Ugrics?

    Bratislava (Pressburg)
    South Austria (Slovenia)
    I think non-Germanic areas like these should not be 'regained' until the Germanic ones are taken back with complete certainty.

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