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    Women More Beautiful but Men Remain Neanderthal, Study Finds

    RESEARCH has found evolution is making women more beautiful, while men remain as unappealing as their cavemen ancestors.
    Scientists argue beautiful women are having 16 per cent more children than their "plainer" counterparts and a higher proportion of those children are female. When the daughters have children of their own, the pattern is repeated.

    Markus Jokela, from the University of Helsinki, looked at data from the US involving 1,244 women and 997 men followed over the course of four decades for the study, which was released last week.

    Attractiveness was assessed from photographs taken during the study and compared with the number of children couples had.

    For handsome men, research found they were no more successful than others in terms of the number of children, suggesting there was little pressure for men's appearance to evolve.

    Previous work by Satoshi Kanazawa, an evolutionary psychologist at the London School of Economics, who found good-looking parents were far more likely to conceive daughters. He suggested it was an evolutionary strategy programmed into human DNA.

    He said: "If more attractive parents have more daughters and if physical attractiveness is heritable, it logically follows that women over many generations gradually become more physically attractive on average than men."

    Gayle Brewer, a psychology lecturer at the University of Central Lancashire, said: "Men and women seek different things. For women, looks are much less important in a man than his ability to look after her when she is pregnant and nursing. Historically this has meant rich men tend to have more wives and many children. So the pressure is on men to be successful."
    Source: http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scie...men.5495025.jp

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    I find this one interesting:
    Scientists argue beautiful women are having 16 per cent more children than their "plainer" counterparts and a higher proportion of those children are female. When the daughters have children of their own, the pattern is repeated

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    A female body is more refined than a male body which is more rugged. Also the motorik follows the same rule.

    Whether beauty really develops over the thousends of years is a question I don't know. The celtic mummies from the Tarim desert in China look very beautiful, especially the women. (Don't look at the political correct models, which multi culturalist made out of them, simply look at the originals).

    Also the men seem to have a male beauty.

    I wonder whether and just how beauty is only inherited by female but not by male offsprings.

    I also think that your lifestyle, your features, your values etc have an impact on your looks. I believe if you have dignity it shines through your body. It will have an impact over the years, at least on posture, how you carry yourself etc.

    Nowadays, esp women help their looks with artificial means. Make up, surgery, breast enhancements etc should make them nice to look at. But they are merely nice containers which are empty.

    My wife is looking good but she isn't a beauty, but I wouldn't change her for any beauty. There is just so much more to a woman then just looks.

    Looks are important in a superficial world. If you go beyond that you enter a whole new world.

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    Yeah I think physically women are generally more aesthetic than men in their same age and classification range.

    Women went through an entirely different set of evolutionary factors in the history of human civilization, and a lot of it depended on they way they look. So yes they are more physically Aesthetic.

    Interesting Article I just found here

    The evolution of blond hair and blue eyes among Nordics

    A bit of off topic though.

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    Courious... 0.o

    It is a fact of natural selection of course, the genes that project the stereotypes of beauty, are totally independent from "generic" factors... the determinant for masculinity or femininity is a single chromosome.

    If you have a "good looking" father, probably you´ll be good looking (of course including the maternal genetic influence); the genes that give beauty profiles are numerous, and considering what is known of genetics it is not appropriate to talk about "exclusivity" of one gender or another for the inheritance of these factors ... of course in scientific terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrishwilhelm View Post
    It is a fact of natural selection of course, the genes that project the stereotypes of beauty, are totally independent from "generic" factors... the determinant for masculinity or femininity is a single chromosome.

    If you have a "good looking" father, probably you´ll be good looking (of course including the maternal genetic influence); the genes that give beauty profiles are numerous, and considering what is known of genetics it is not appropriate to talk about "exclusivity" of one gender or another for the inheritance of these factors ... of course in scientific terms.
    It's all good seeds & bad seeds!

    http://darwin-online.org.uk/Editoria...centofMan.html

    http://darwin-online.org.uk/Editoria...ofSpecies.html

    The Natural Selection of Beauty

    In addition to being a theist, I am also a Darwinist, and I therefore believe that natural selection is sufficient to explain the existence of the universe and everything in it. If that is so, then it must explain the existence of beauty. If we can show that beauty evolved by natural selection, then we can also refute the "beauty as proof of God" another way - we will have shown that beauty can exist without God. Again, this doesn't prove God doesn't exist, it merely shows that the existence of beauty does not logically imply the existence of God.

    Let's revisit the question "what is beauty"? First, let's agree that beauty is an attribute of things which is perceptual. Beauty is not only "in the eye of the beholder", but it is only in the eye of a beholder; it does not exist in and of itself. Something can be a certain color, or a certain shape, or have a certain texture, or exhibit particular patterns, and these things are innate. But beauty is a meta-property of color, shape, texture, pattern, etc. which is derived by an observer. So to ask "what is beauty" is really to ask "why do humans perceive things as beautiful?"
    Retrieved From:http://w-uh.com/articles/030519-god_and_beauty.html

    Darwin speculated that the melodic beauty of birds' songs developed because female birds chose males who sang most beautifully. But, "How the sense of beauty in its simplest form -- that is, the reception of a peculiar kind of pleasure from certain colours, forms, and sounds -- was first developed in the mind of man and of the lower animals, is a very obscure subject...." (Origin page 186) Obscure indeed, for his explanation is no explanation at all.

    "With respect to the belief that organic beings have been created beautiful for the delight of man, -- A BELIEF WHICH IT HAS BEEN PRONOUNCED IS SUBVERSIVE TO MY WHOLE THEORY, -- I may first remark that the sense of beauty obviously depends on the nature of the mind, irrespective of any real quality in the admired object; and that the idea of what is beautiful is not innate or unalterable. We see this, for instance, in the men of different races admiring an entirely different standard of beauty in their women. If beautiful objects have been created solely for man's gratification, it ought to be shown that before man appeared, there was less beauty on the face of the earth than since he came on the stage...." (Origin of Species. page 185. Emphasis mine).
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    Why do men have nipples? Because they are genetically almost identical to a woman. The only difference is hormones tells the body and brain to masculanize (get bulky) or to feminize (such as grow boobs). There's not a big difference in appearance of a genetically identical male and female.

    Men definately are selected for their looks but much less so than women. Studies show that poor parents have more females. Good looking parents tend to have more females. Things like that. This is because it is more likely the female will be successful. Rich people have more males. Average and uglier people more males. A testosterone pumped athlete has more males. Etc.

    I've noticed myself most good looking girls end up getting knocked up by the time they hit 25. Average and ugly girls this usually doesn't happen. Good looking girls don't stay single long so yeah they are outbreeding the ugly ones. But there's a constant dysgenic pressure and also we bring in so many third world ugly people that it undoes any positive effects.

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    Mens life styles have changed and these changes do not favor the most aggressive and physically developed any more. It favors the weak, fat, and physically undeveloped. Today it demands the most cunning, devious which is of a south eastern orogin and this cross threads into all other nations previously passed on by the xanity religions and the convertion into the surounding world populace. This semetic gene is the most successfull for buisness because the world conditions have evolved into this and dictated it in todays world.
    Females are being concieved more because of the poisoning of the water and food which contains high levels of Oestreogen which then effects the unborn feutus and this dictates the sex of the species this also applies to the animal kindoms in present day. Beauty creates beauty and the high and more evolved species of man if breed with good genetic qualities pass on this gene into their progeny. If peoples of a lower genetic race breed they lack the physical and spiritual development at present but should seek a more advanced form this allows them to raise up in devlopment in the future If they do not, they either stay the same or breed with a lower form which then becomes more degenerate in mind, body and spirit. In todays world women seek the financiers and these skills belong to the lower forms as they in the past have had more time to be civilised and are more adapted to making money and performing buisness this gene is passed into their offspring and the so called negative qualities of man have become proliferent into todays world because of migrations.

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