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    Do You Despise the Term "Neonazi"?

    I have a question for fellow NS. Do you despise the term "Neonazi" and why? Is it because of "Nazi", "Neo" or both?

    I don't consider the term derogatory, even if some people try to use it that way.

    I think "Neonazi" could be necessary to make a distinction between old-school NS, the first generations, and modern day ones. Goebbels himself used the word "Nazi", which is just an abbreviation, but its frequent use by the Allies made NS become turned off. I am not insulted if someone calls me a "Neonazi".

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    Neo-Nazi is not particularly insulting for me, the problem is the connection that people make to skin head hooligans that term themselves as such. The jew influenced media obviously places a lot of pertinence on this as it serves the image of what they would want the world to see as Neo-Nazism. If by Neo-Nazi one implies a persone who actively attempts to revive Nationalsocialism then it’s an apt description for myself. It is sad however that some people attempt to use it in a jew fueled derogatory sense. Either way it is apt to describe a Nationalsocialist in the modern era.
    Although the word "Commando" was wrongly used to describe all Boer soldiers, a commando was a unit formed from a particular district. None of the units was organized in regular companies, battalions or squadrons. The Boer commandos were individualists who were difficult to control, resented formal discipline or orders, and earned a British jibe that"every Boer was his own general".

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    I have been referred to as a neonazi, but I do not hold strictly national socialist views. I consider national socialism an option among many for a homogeneous German culture, perhaps the best option, in fact. However, for my own country, I prefer libertarianism, as my country happens to be multicultural. As long as it remains multicultural, national socialism will do no good here.

    I do not mind the term linguistically, as it is rather accurate. However, there are serious connotations attached to it in my country that are not accurate to describe most national socialists. Therefore, a new term is generally in order for the presentation of said beliefs.

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    Whatever

    Anything they call people like us is intended as derogatory, no matter how good the term originally was. You do not know how good it makes me feel when I read the posts of good people like the three of you. We know in our hearts that whatever they call us and no matter how they intend it, we transcend them and their world, while at the same time we remain as imminent as the water in the soil and the plants.

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    I have no problems with being called a "Nazi", but I prefer to not be called a "Neo-Nazi". That's for a fairly personal, but no unimportant reason. It is not the largely semantic-polemic distinction between different strands of Nationalist thought, it's about being a misnomer altogether.

    The fight for our folk is a timeless one. It knows no past, present or future distinct from each other. It takes guidance and memory from the past, focusses on the present, and seeks to create a better reality for the future. The term "Neo-Nazi" does not acknowledge that timeless, yet dynamic character.

    Grouping people of our school of thought into "Altnazis" and "Neonazis" makes an artificial distinction, as though it were different things altogether. A new movement would merit a new name - but applying the same name would sound like a re-enactment, which it is clearly not. And it certainly is inappropriate for terming something which is a modern-day continuation of something we don't consider to have been dead at any stage.

    It is by the way the same reason why I disagree with the classification of today's Heathenry as "Neo-Paganism". The qualifier "Neo-" suggests that there is a clear distinction between the old and new ways, whilst instead the new ways are solely an adaptation of timeless wisdom to its respective day and age.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    Wasn't the term "nazi" coined by some traitor? anyways, I perfer National Socialist to "Nazi" or "Neo-Nazi".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron_Empire View Post
    Wasn't the term "nazi" coined by some traitor?
    It doesn't matter who coined it. Fact is that it was used by Goebbels from a very early stage, fact is also that it was used in several movies as early as 1933 or 1934, so I wouldn't be too sure it started out as a derogatory term, more like an abbreviation, like "Sozi" is for a Socialist.

    I perfer National Socialist to "Nazi" or "Neo-Nazi".
    That any sane personal would prefer such a more descriptive and more formally understandable term is out of question. The question is however not to what we prefer, but to how we feel about the terms our political enemies would attribute to us casually.

    Other than that, if we are talking about preferences, I disbelieve in self-defining usage of such terms. Terms like these, i.e. such as "National Socialist" or "National Conservative" or "National Anarchist" are useful to sum up your views with a few words to the curious outsider, but can give rise to sectarianism if used within the movement.

    For internal use, however, I definitely prefer the use of the term "Folkish" ("Völkisch" in German) for any Nationalist movement. Internally, it doesn't semantically matter what you call yourselves - it matters that it has a uniting character. For all it is worth, you could speak of yourself as "We, the teddy bears should stride for..."

    If you call yourself a "National Socialist" some will not throw in their bets with you because "they are not socialists", if you call yourself "National Conservative" some will not throw in their bets with you because "they are not conservatives" and if you call yourself "National Democrats" some will not throw in their bets with you because "they are not conservatives".

    Whilst such pidgeon-holing also exists when dealing with the wider public, since the public in modern times (that is post-1970 or so) tends to vote by issues rather than partisanism anyhow, it is less damning to put a more defined name to it to the plebs, than it is to build walls within the movement due to such a classification.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimner View Post


    Neo-Nazi is not particularly insulting for me, the problem is the connection that people make to skin head hooligans that term themselves as such. The jew influenced media obviously places a lot of pertinence on this as it serves the image of what they would want the world to see as Neo-Nazism. If by Neo-Nazi one implies a persone who actively attempts to revive Nationalsocialism then it’s an apt description for myself. It is sad however that some people attempt to use it in a jew fueled derogatory sense. Either way it is apt to describe a Nationalsocialist in the modern era.
    I agree. The point is, our enemies are looking for key words to use negatively, to put the nationalists in a bad light. In consequence, most nationalists start to deny they are racists, anti-Semitic, neo-Nazi, and so forth. Our enemies are gradually making us negate what we are.

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    I don't despise the term, I only wish that modern NS-minded people were actually true Neo-Nazis, and not Nazi reenactors like they are for the most part.

    The 1930s National Socialists were using all the tools they could in their time to get the power and set up successful settings for their ethnic group. They used race as a basis for power. It's all about power and resources control first. Race has always been a factor in this struggle, but not the basis for it; this is how races evolve: their most competitive elements survives, the rest dies. Today's ethnocentrists should imitate the nature of the Third Reich, not its form.

    The nature (essence) of National Socialism was to design a highly competitive group evolutionary strategy, mostly in reaction to Jewish influence, the Slavic demographic danger and the rise of the United States. This took the form of a nationalist dictatorship in that time (this is the form it took), because the XXth century was a time of nation-states and socialism. Industry was the main sector of activity then and in this time of low personal power, most problems could only be solved collectively, through organization by the State.

    This is not true anymore. Today, we have shifted to an information society where you're greatly more able to solve your own problems by yourself, using your superior Germanic brain ; Serious Germanic racialists should thus evolve to a mindset adapted to the information age, instead of trying to replicate the obsolete form of ethnocentrism that is nationalism. Those who manage to empower themselves independently could then connect with like-minded others to consciously direct their destiny. This is, in my mind, true "Neo-Nazism".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todesengel View Post
    I agree. The point is, our enemies are looking for key words to use negatively, to put the nationalists in a bad light. In consequence, most nationalists start to deny they are racists, anti-Semitic, neo-Nazi, and so forth. Our enemies are gradually making us negate what we are.
    But not all of us are neo-Nazis. The main problem, in my opinion, is that this label is placed upon the entire nationalist "movement" (if there is such). The skinhead picture is used to represent us all.
    THINK! It's not illegal yet.

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