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    Post Croatian "I" is different form Northern European "I"

    Most Croatian haplogroup I chromosomes (126/221)
    share a similar STR haplotype from here on called the
    Dinaric Modal Haplotype (DMH: 16–24–11–11–13, defined
    by DYS19–390–391–392–393, respectively) or its one–
    step derivatives. Interestingly, DMH was not present among
    102 Nordic Jobling’s haplogroup 2 chromosomes
    (corresponds to haplogroup I-42) reported by Helgason et al.
    Instead, the North Europeans share another modal haplotype
    14–23–10–11–13 which is three steps away from the
    DMH and together with its one step derivatives covers
    again more than half of haplogroup 2 chromosomes
    (54/102) in the region of its spread.

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    Post AW: Croatian "I" is different form Northern European "I"

    "slavic" languages are absolutely arteficial (Read "slawenlegende"). The "glagolica", invented by a bunch of monks, is nothing but an ancient esperanto, creating new words, definitions and alphabet out of regional slangs.

    The craddle of European Civilization comes from the North. All blond people originate from the north. So if you see a blond-blue eyed Slovene, Russian, Czech, Polak ect., you can be 100% sure that his ancient ancestors originated from "Germanics" (Germanic = Nordic).
    "slovenja" was the settelment of the Langobards = Germanics/Teutons. "Poland" of the Goths and East-Vandals ect. ect. What do "slavs" tell us about their origin?
    Some silly story that they originate from some swamps in the east and popped out of no where into history.

    So you see my dear "Gorostan" [=Triglav], you are in reality a "Germanic" indoctrinated with panslav propaganda and historic fantasy stories. ~Dr. Brandt, former TNP and Skadi member

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    Post Re: AW: Croatian "I" is different form Northern European "I"

    Thank ye, that sorta explains a lot of things

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    Post Re: Croatian "I" is different form Northern European "I"

    I The I, I1, I1a, and I1b lineages are common in northwestern Europe, but the I haplogroup is also common on Sardinia (45% of males, mostly I1b2 subgroup) and Croatia (one-third of males are I1b). The I1a would most likely have been common within Viking populations. One lineage of the I group extends down into central Europe. About 10-15% or Northwestern Europeans are in the I haplogroup. The following table shows the steps, each one involving a UEP mutation, that led from earliest humans to the origin of the I1b group in time and location
    http://home.comcast.net/~whitathey/haplogroups.htm
    Last edited by Übersoldat; Friday, June 4th, 2004 at 01:04 AM.

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    Post Re: Croatian "I" is different form Northern European "I"

    Source: Phylogeography of Y-Chromosome Haplogroup I Reveals Distinct Domains of Prehistoric Gene Flow in Europe

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    Post Re: Croatian "I" is different form Northern European "I"


    But Zvaci, Ib lineages are NOT common in Northwest Europe. That's a fact now.

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    Post Re: Croatian "I" is different form Northern European "I"

    Quote Originally Posted by Zvaci
    Source: Phylogeography of Y-Chromosome Haplogroup I Reveals Distinct Domains of Prehistoric Gene Flow in Europe


    So obviously you agree there is a major difference between Ia and Ib lineages.

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    Post Re: Croatian "I" is different form Northern European "I"

    Quote Originally Posted by Polak
    So obviously you agree there is a major difference between Ia and Ib lineages.
    Hmm I never said they are the same subhaplogroups. But they are the same hallogroup. Now what is not clear to you here!??

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    Post Re: Croatian "I" is different form Northern European "I"

    Quote Originally Posted by Polak
    But Zvaci, Ib lineages are NOT common in Northwest Europe. That's a fact now.
    Ia lineages have their frequency in Croatia:
    http://www.forums.skadi.net/showpost...4&postcount=72

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