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    Toe Length Indicator of Phenotype?

    Greetings, members of Skadi.

    There are different types of feet.

    On this foot the big toe is smaller than the second one.



    On this foot the big toe and the second toe have the same length.



    On this foot not just the big toe and the second one but even the third one have the same length.



    And, finally, there are feet where the big toe is the big one.

    (the left one)


    Now the question whether the length of the toes is somehow connected to the phenotype or race crossed my mind some time ago. Since there are people on this board who are able to determine one's ancestry just by looking at a small number of pictures I am sure there's at least one who can answer my foot question.

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    Very interesting question indeed.
    However, I don't think this has anything to do with race. It's rather individual variation, but I am waiting impatiently for an expert opinion.

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    Well I am not sure about toes, but I read somewhere about hormones received while in the uterus affecting the relative legnhts of the index finger with regard to the ring finger. A higher exposure to testosterone results in a longer ring finger than the index. One could thus determine the degree of ,I think it was Masculinity, of a person in such a manner.

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    Ok!!! So I did a little bit of research and I never really thought there could be a connection to races, but it seems like there might just be something to it.

    From wikipedia:
    It has a long association with disputed anthropological and ethnic interpretations. Morton called it Metatarsus atavicus, considering it an atavism recalling prehuman grasping toes. In statuary and shoe fitting it has been called the Greek foot (as opposed to the Egyptian foot, where the great toe is longer). A longer second toe has often been associated with royalty, particularly during the rule of the Ptolemaic dynasty when Egypt was under Greek rulership. It was an idealized form in Greek sculpture, and this persisted as an aesthetic standard through Roman and Renaissance periods and later (the Statue of Liberty has toes of this proportion). There are also associations found within Celtic groups. However, the amount of people within the Greek ethnic group who exhibit Morton's toe exceeds 95%. It has often been used as a means of hereditary identification, as it is a dominant trait feature among those of Greek heritage. The French call it commonly pied grec (just as the Italians call it piede greco), but sometimes pied ancestral or pied de Néanderthal
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    Heard of the Podiatrist who discovered the Celtic Toe? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_toe (June 1996) from Discover Magazine which discusses the work of Phyllis Jackson, a retired Gloucestershire podiatrist. Apparently, Jackson noticed the distinct differences between Celtic and Saxon feet during WWII and has gone on, in amateur archeology, to identify the Saxons and Celts in a sixth century cemetery based on their feet. English feet, according to Jackson, "tend to be broad and somewhat pointed -- their toes form a steep angle from the first to the fifth..." The Celtic feet are longer and slimmer with more level toe tips. Celtic feet also have a bulge at the base of the big toe where bunions tended to form as a result of forcing their feet into English shaped shoes during WWII. I don't know if her theories have been proven scientifically, but if you are interested you can check your own feet... or your neighbor's. ;-)
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    It seems a longer second toe is a characterizing trait of the Mediterranean race (ancestral to the British Isles too - hence the 'Celtic theory'). I guess the horse riders of the steppes (Proto-Aryans) did not develop this long second toe because it would inhibit their horse riding skills, that's why the descendants of these horse riders (Slavs and some Germans) don't have this trait.

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    Interesting....my 2nd toe is a little bit longer than my big toe, but I'm pretty sure I don't have any greek ancestry

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    My big toe is longer than my second toe but I've seen other people with "Mortons toe".
    Close observation may result in feelings of horror, wonder and awe at world you find yourself inhabiting.

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    That is weird.My second and third toe are both longer than my big toe but my feet are really high arched and narrow.My feet look weird because they are rather small for my size.I have really long legs and a large upper body with small feet.

    My middle finger is longer than all the other fingers on my hand.Does that have a meaning as well?

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    Wink

    If your big toe is smaller then the toe next to him then it indicates a tendency towards a stomach that is sensitive when you are nervous ,at such times you should stay away from acid foods like tomatoes, that is all.
    It has nothing to do with race, the Germanic shaman knew these thing better then us, today we call it the art of Reflexology.
    Reflexology is the art of healing disease by massaging the feet in a special relaxing way as to reach equilibrium in the body.Almost the same as massaging a diseased person to help the body release tension so that it can heal itself. I hope this will clear up the matter a little for you, I happen to practice there arts and are registered with the authorities in my country to do so.
    Kind regards to all of you.

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    Seemingly there are dissenting opinions on the meaning of length differences of toes, so let's leave this issue for the time being.

    I'm going off topic now, I know, but the relation between index finger and ring finger is known as "2D:4D ratio", whereas "2D" stands for the second finger, i.e. the index finger, and 4D for the fourth, i.e. the ring finger. A low 2D:4D ratio (short index finger relatively to the ring finger) in men can, as far as I know, be a sign of the following conditions or behavioural traits:

    - over average athletic ability, especially capacity to take up oxygen
    - promiscuitiy
    - autism or traits related to autism, including but not limited to Asperger Syndrome etc.

    To read more:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digit_ratio

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    MY ring finger is longer than my index finger but my middle finger is longer than both the others.I was in my youth very athletic.I wrestled for several
    years in the Greco-Roman style,played the Runningback position in American
    rules Football,ran track,placed second in my states 100 meter dash.

    Autisim runs in my family.My brother has a mild form of Autisim,my sisters son
    is a full blown Autistic,I have a cousin on the Blankenship side who has
    Aspergers.I also made good grades in school and I have an above average I.Q..

    Oh,I have to add one more thing.I love women.

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