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    Re: One third of all European children will be born to Muslim families by 2025

    I have this discussion with my friends or at least I used to as they think I'm too right wing and it always results in a blazing row.
    They always say that I'm over estimating everything and that history shows that nothing stays the same and that the world and our country is changing - at this point I'm normally apoplectic with rage. They will just quietly acquiesce to the changing colour and culture of the UK. I would go with your latter comment, they haven't been told ENOUGH. No one wants to think past next week let alone contemplate what Britain/Europe may be like in 100 years.

    Also, I would never vote for the BNP party, although I share some of their views, I have always treated them with derision, I think they have long way to go on their PR front, if they want to reach out to more voters in the UK.





    Quote Originally Posted by Carl View Post
    Somehow we lost our way - and in its train, we lost our continent! -- or at least we seem to be in the process of loosing it. If people cared enough, they would turn to parties that would resolve the problem. Why don't they then ? is it because they don't trust them ? is it because they don't really care any more? They can't surely say they haven't been told. Perhaps they haven't yet been told enough!

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    Re: Sv: Re: One third of all European children will be born to Muslim families by 202

    Quote Originally Posted by krispilot View Post
    Didn't you British give British passport to all Indians and other colonies ? Was that inflenced by Americans? or did you do it yourself , and now it backfires.......
    don't misunderstand me! WE DID IT for sure -- but the spirit was perhaps to be more like America? its something to do with being egalitarian, of accepting everyone that comes along usw. Before the war , in the good old days (!), other races knew where they stood! that's how Empires should be - where the Imperial power isn't actually destroyed by the colony.
    Oh yes. it certainly BACKFIRES - just as the Romans discovered. Don't think we were not warned what would happen! We became a world wide COMMON wealth whilst paying mere lipservice to Europa Magna!!!

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    Re: One third of all European children will be born to Muslim families by 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Tabitha View Post
    They will just quietly acquiesce to the changing colour and culture of the UK. I would go with your latter comment, they haven't been told ENOUGH. No one wants to think past next week let alone contemplate what Britain/Europe may be like in 100 years.

    Also, I would never vote for the BNP party, although I share some of their views, I have always treated them with derision, I think they have long way to go on their PR front, if they want to reach out to more voters in the UK.
    Tabi., they always said that democracy was about 20 mins (Hitler!) or "gossiping & chattering about the prospects of the next five minutes!" (Mosley) --- sorry to quote these old guys at you - but they capture something of the truth. There is no real or deep thinking about the future!

    As for the BNP etc , we have considered it at some length on the British National thread.

    http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=82317&page=5
    entry # 42 onward for recent ideas!!

    How can we turn it round. You know the numbers are now against any reversal! The new Tories have just adoted another Asian candidate. Bring them in , make them at home.............you know the line! A general awakening is needed but I am in considerable despair that it will ever happen!

    ISN't THAT JUST PATHETIC!!!!!!!

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    Re: One third of all European children will be born to Muslim families by 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by psycho_pixie View Post
    i guess i should have said "what can/should be done to address the low birth rate in the native population?"
    What should be done is to put down yer calc and read some of Heidegger's "The Question Concerning Technology," or better yet "Was heisst Denken?"

    To think low birth rates are a merely incidental phenomenon which might be tethered via some Madison Avenue or Politburo machinations is misguided and wildly unsuited to making any long run difference – unless it’s to exacerbate the existing trend!

    Until you all stop looking for political or mechanical solutions to fundamentally organically metaphysical problems, which, under my neo-Nietzschean scheme is a purely PSYCHOLOGICAL problem, properly understood, you will simply continue to be baffled and thwarted, if nonetheless insulated.

    People (on an aggregate scale) have kids or not for profoundly complicated reasons, reasons overdetermined and anyway which no social policy wonk nor sociological survey will untangle any time soon. As long, that is, as the issue continues to be seen from the mechanistic POV favored by the masses, to which, notwithstanding membership in various online fora , most of the people in most of the places at most times belong.

    Alternatively, the issue can be seen from the point of view of the individual if the individual in question is “beyond good and evil.” It’s very hard to be beyond good and evil. You’re very probably not. But if you are, you can begin to glimpse the role of self esteem, self respect, and self love in our lives in a way the very vast majority cannot and will not, and gain thereby a glimmer of COMPREHENSION as to WHY industrialized, advanced nations are "disappearing" -- well the people (i.e, genetic material) that built them anywaze.

    Okay okay you want some QUICK answer, why else am I HERE?: all right then, people aren’t having enough kids because KIDS ARE BORING! Babies are too EASY for the choosier spirits among us, to which ranks women are adding themselves apace as they “gain” education, worldly status, and self respect, and a very itchy, prickly (!) PRIDE! Brats are simply not enough of a challenge -- they just won't hold our interest long enough. It's not enough to tell people who get their kicks from making ANYONE buy ANYTHING that they better go out and have kids cuz they are the "vehicles" of our genes/race/ethnic group. Anyone who prefers changing diapers and cataloging little Thornena’s first pillage will be rapidly relegated BY DEFINITION and ON PRINCIPLE to lower status citizen -- and not just by the "capitalist plutocrats" either. As it has always been, the rare for the rare, and the common for the common, regardless of politico-economic structure. It is simply NOT DIFFICULT cognitively nor emotionally nor physically to tend to a child’s needs (and YES I HAVE so heshup!) Ah, but it IS difficult “RESPECTABLY.”

    But that's not to say we can't RE-ORGANIZE the whole damn thing via some innovative -- I dare say COSMICALLY INGENIOUS approach to ensure that the gene trains MOVE "on time" -- it's certainly not impossible, but it will indeed require an entire reconceptualization of everything from kinship to self to love to life itself, and NOT a REVIVING of a certain political or social program designed around a "train timetable."

    Complex women, like complex men, don’t want kids until it’s “too late,” if then. Simple women are simply disappearing, because no one wants to be treated badly... nej! NOT "treated," for it’s not a matter of “treatment,” it’s a matter of BAD CONSCIENCE. By the time a woman has READ a BOOK, she has INTERNALIZED self respect and the MAGIC has HAPPENED. Women whose motivations and pride are fulfilled merely with children are supplanted by women who have discovered, KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS (in any case BELIEVE) how little respected such motives and pride ARE among the people THEY have come to respect – that is, among the people they have LEARNED from, they have GROWN from, they have BECOME COMPLEX from – "DAMN THEM!"

    We know who THOSE are don’t we? They are those who have FATHOMED them. Those who have figured them out. The ones who awe them with their COLDNESS, their colossal and AFFRONTING indifference, their FATHERS in the first instance -- males in any case! The "respectable" ones. The ones who have the audacity, unlike MOM!, to tell them to their faces, without PREJUDICE toward “having them” what they “need to know.” Namely the whole drive toward TRUTH, via secular science and the whole mechanistic apparatus, has SMOKED women out of their stupor (i.e. “natural place") -- not because I THINK SO, but because THEY SAY SO!

    Men cannot hide their disdain for merely barefoot and pregnant women – unless they bury them under a burqa. Nor can "cultured" women HIDE their KNOWLEDGE of this DISDAIN, no matter HOW WELL the men try to "hide" it. Until you completely come to terms with THIS STUFF, you’ll just be spinning yer wheels figuring out, nevermind GETTING OUT of the birth rate rut.

    Of course the perceptive among you will have seen that this is at the bottom of the whole shebang -- from multiculti, to PC, to low birth rates, to racial "self hatred," to European nihilism as Nietzsche knew it: all of them simply continuations, extrapolations of the obdurate logic of culture writ large.

    Only a total unmasking which also REMAINS masked can manage it's overturn. SUCH an “educator,” as Nietzsche knew, “is beyond good and evil... But no one must know it.” Or as that hoary Black Forest mole wanted us finally to hear: “Only a God can save us” now.
    In a woman's love is injustice and blindness towards all that she does not love... Woman is not yet capable of friendship: women are still cats and birds. Or, at best, cows. Woman is not yet capable of friendship. But tell me, you men, which of you is yet capable of friendship? --- Nietzsche, TSZ

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    Re: One third of all European children will be born to Muslim families by 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Jantelover View Post
    Okay okay you want some QUICK answer, why else am I HERE?: all right then, people aren’t having enough kids because KIDS ARE BORING! Babies are too EASY for the choosier spirits among us, to which ranks women are adding themselves apace as they “gain” education, worldly status, and self respect, and a very itchy, prickly (!) PRIDE! Brats are simply not enough of a challenge -- they just won't hold our interest long enough...........


    Only a total unmasking which also REMAINS masked can manage it's overturn. SUCH an “educator,” as Nietzsche knew, “is beyond good and evil... But no one must know it.” Or as that hoary Black Forest mole wanted us finally to hear: “Only a God can save us” now.

    Let me say that I am one who rejoices that the great Black Forest "mole" defied Hitler and remained with his folk in the BlackForest, dwelling poetically in the truth rather than dying in the hell of Berlin! Its a co-incidence that I have just used the Heidegger God-quote in a rep. for somebody. What you have said takes some unravelling - but it certainly seems as though there is indeed a deep malaise in society today which means that having children is seen as very much second order stuff! Our organic priorities are all wrong if we are planning for any future al all.

    Obviously if we choose to admit millions of aliens who have their own strong religious values and are not influenced by our own spiritual degeneration, who do not despise the womanhood of woman in a way which has been suggested, who value having children as a divine act, then they will have that as an advantage in their favour. Perhaps it is also true that we blame them because it is easier than blaming what we have become.
    So perhaps Heidegger really was right. Only a God can save us. Only a return to divine meaningfulness will enable our own to find the path through into the future.

    But , at the same time, what of these others???

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    Re: One third of all European children will be born to Muslim families by 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Carl View Post
    All my life I have heard this! "It must get worse first ...." and then ? does it get better ? No ! it gets even worse. We have in Britain the experience of 50 years of leading the way. Were we under American influence to willingly admit thousands and thousands after the war - Blacks, Indians , Muslims. Was it just to be like America ?! (Even then we were warned what would happen). Was it because the glorious British Empire collapsed following the devastation of WWII? (Well, what can we say about that!?)

    Somehow we lost our way - and in its train, we lost our continent! -- or at least we seem to be in the process of loosing it. If people cared enough, they would turn to parties that would resolve the problem. Why don't they then ? is it because they don't trust them ? is it because they don't really care any more? They can't surely say they haven't been told. Perhaps they haven't yet been told enough!
    I think it is because the the anti-colonial guilt. GB made deals for people of its colonies (Indian Pakistan) to come to Europe. Also, France did same with Nord-Afrika. I think it is this colonial guilt, mixed with Europe trying to become "tolerant" and "multicultural" because of all that become of the outcome of WWII that gives us the reason why this has begun.

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    Re: One third of all European children will be born to Muslim families by 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Baaß View Post
    I think it is because the the anti-colonial guilt.
    Bingo! And this is jew inspired anti-colonial guilt is through the jew's perfidious control of the mass media and the key points in our White societies as amply documented already here on Skadi by many astute members.

    Unlike the zionist Baaß, Kaiser does not recommend sending off our precious resources, technology, and expertise to the thirdworlder hellholes in a misguided and zionistic inspired self-guilt complex effort to stem the tide of massive non-white immigration.

    Instead, it is far better to examine the WHO is behind these illegitimate and destructive guilt-ridden anti-White race policies of our Folk. Halt any more massive non-white immigration to our lands now! Deport all illegal aliens and dissidents all. No amnesty! Repatriate all non-whites to their respective homelands. We wouldn't want to be so mean as to keep them so far from their homes and wonderful cutures now would we? And begin the cultural healing process of our lands since this massive onslaught of waves of foreigners into the heart of our Kultur has damaged us.

    Only then, could the mere thought of foreign aid be considered at all. Not a single day sooner. Even then it should be relegated to private charity only. No governemntal grants or aid. And if it is aid to a threat nation or peoples, then it must be forbidden even for private charities to contibute, aid, and abet our racial and cultural enemies. Otherise, to follow the zionistic lead proposed by the jew any further only courts disaster for our Race and the world. The evidence of the racial insanity of these jew policies can already be seen all around us. Only the willfully blind miss this.

    Even a doctor who cares for others must remain healthy himself if he is to help others. We are like a blind, sick doctor. Many in our Race can not even see what the mass media, courts, and universities has done, and continues to do, to our fine Folk through the insidious manipulations of the jew and its accomplices.

    This zionistic poison must first be removed from the influence of our homes before we can go forward.

    We must secure the existence of Our Volk and a future for Germanic Children.

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    Re: One third of all European children will be born to Muslim families by 2025

    Quote Originally Posted by Mannerheim View Post
    I just thought it rather caricature like when you are stalinist and mongol. And also still a racist,is there better joke than you ? Oh there is ,you call yourself a finnic,that hurts me btw.

    Im really ashamed about your username.Please change it. Finland would better to change its name that it wouldnt be connected to mongolid bolshevists trash like you.Its language also should be changed.

    LOL,Socialism would been like saving angel ? I recommend you to read your history better,mongol.Finland changed to welfare shit society cause we lost the war - war against your stalinist bolshevistic communistic workers paradise.Your ideal country USSR brutally attacked to our innocent little country and tried to exterminate us without successing.When we only tried to defend ourselves and finally lost the war then we had to live under the puppet government,originally ruled from stalinistic kreml.I strongly believe that stalinism havent done much good to our country.

    Your stalinism brought somalis and muslims to my country.
    Degenaracy = modern world. Don't blame me that Finland became like trashy Sweden instead of iron like USSR before USSR became decadent after the rulers bring back Capitalism.

    USSR was White Worker's Country, now I believe in Finnic Strong Worker's Country with many strong things and large populace. If you want to call me Mongol, that's fine. The Mongol's and Wallenius did more than Mannerheim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finnic Wolf View Post
    I would send Kurds and Somalis into Lappland to die in Gulag. Then lazy people and stupid people woiuld be punish. Degenaracy = modern world. Don't blame me that Finland became like trashy Sweden instead of iron like USSR before USSR became decadent after the rulers bring back Capitalism.
    Iron!? The USSR was terrible. The citizens of it were more slaves than citizens. Peopel were starving, and there was not freedom. It spent so much on military to compete with better America, that it not could even look after its own citizens. Also, USSR tried to destroy soverignty of places like East-Germany, Estonian, Latvia, Lithuania, Finland. The people in those countries of which I said, HATE Russians because of Russian opression to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser View Post
    Bingo! And this is jew inspired anti-colonial guilt is through the jew's perfidious control of the mass media and the key points in our White societies as amply documented already here on Skadi by many astute members.
    I think more that anti-colonial guilt comes from.....having colonies and "oppressing" citiznes of those colonies and the soverignty (Even though I quite enjoyed Colonialism, even if Switzerland did not include in it )
    Also, after WWII, people became much more sympathy towards other people, because of all of what ethnic nationalism caused in the war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baaß View Post
    The people in those countries of which I said, HATE Russians because of Russian opression to them.
    True.

    And we are well aware now of the jew inspired communist oligarchy which ruled Russia with an iron fist during the Cold war and before since the collapse of the soviet Union and their release of state archives. History now proves Hitler was right in attacking the Soviet Union as well in a preemptivel maneuver. Now, the jew mob rules there. We must free our White Bothers and Sisters from this zionisic oppression. There are many fine White Russians left there. Even David Duke moved from USA to Russia to help them out.

    We must secure the existence of Our Volk and a future for Germanic Children.

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