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    Question Who Actually Invented Concentration Camps?

    If someone wants to learn about concentration camps online, they will most likely search on Google. Most of the results and pictures are from "Nazi concentration camps" or "WWII concentration camps".
    Novices are lead to believe the Nazis invented concentration camps, which is not the truth.

    My question is, who were the inventors/pioneers of concentration camps, those who came up with the idea first? I've read from several sources, that it was the English in the Anglo-Boer war (1899-1902), but other sources cite earlier camps, such as in the United States (concentration camps for Cherokee and other Native Americans in the 1830s), in Cuba (1868–78) and in the Philippines (1898–1901) by Spain under the Restoration and the US respectively. Polish historian Władysław Konopczyński has suggested the first concentration camps were actually created in the 18th century, during Bar Confederation, when Russians organized 3 concentration camps in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth for Polish rebel captives, where internees awaited deportation on to Siberia. (Wikipedia)

    The history of the name (Wikipedia): The term finds its roots in the "reconcentration camps" set up in Cuba by Valeriano Weyler in 1897 to quell opposition to Spanish rule in Cuba.

    I've even read there were ancient versions of concentration camps, but I can't recall where exactly. Any ideas?

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    A lecture I listened to not to long ago called "Utopia and Terror in the 20th-century" claims the following;

    Worldwide imperialism, peaking in the 1890s, made brutal rule of civilian populations seem normal, including the invention of concentration camps and the use of terror in colonial campaigns. In the background could be heard uncanny premonitions of a coming world war, a collision that would, in fact, be greeted by many.
    Concentration camps were another innovation of colonial conflicts, established in 1896 in the Spanish attempt to suppress revolt in Cuba by cutting guerillas off from support among civilians, who were
    interred. The British also used concentration camps in the Boer War (1899–1902) against settlers of Dutch origin in South Africa, incurring many civilian deaths.
    Also, the Professor's timeline says that the concentration camp was invented in 1896 by the Spaniards but wasn't totally "established" until the early 1930s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChaosLord View Post
    but wasn't totally "established" until the early 1930s.
    Well, of course not, why blame on someone else, what you can blame on Germans, even if it's not their fault?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Erlkoenig View Post
    Well, of course not, why blame on someone else, what you can blame on Germans, even if it's not their fault?
    Hence the quotes. I saw that and snickered because I see how its attention was diverted from the unaware reader/listener.
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    The British.
    From the website
    Welcome to BritishReparations.org, the official site of the International Coalition for British Reparations. We are a global network of citizens who have suffered injuries at the hands of the British Empire over the last five hundred years. We've banded together to ask the United Kingdom to compensate the world for all the damage they've done.

    For more information, click on our movie "People of the World, It's Time to Get Paid," or visit "The Facts" link.
    The old Soviet Union, for example, is estimated to be responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of its own citizens, to say nothing of the havoc its aggressive foreign policy wreaked abroad. But most of these deaths happened by way of prison camps (a British invention) or machine guns (another British invention). All roads of human suffering, particularly in the 20th century, lead back to Britain.
    Bad Inventions. Machine guns, slums, prisons, child labor, bad hygiene, the Black Plague, concentration camps, you name it. If it hurts people, the British probably came up with it.

    Strangely enough, Britain has been very aggressive about making other countries pay for their historical misdeeds. Like a herd of raging soccer hooligans looting their rival's capital after a victory, they've extracted exorbitant reparations payments from Germany, France, and China, among others. Now it's their turn to pay.
    http://www.britishreparations.org/facts.php

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    British organised concentration camps in South Africa but I doubt it was first time. I would love to hear more on this topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCPThree View Post
    The British.
    From the website




    http://www.britishreparations.org/facts.php

    What a load of xxxxxxxx. What about all the good things we have done for the world,which far outweighs the negative (like the fact that 40% of the worlds inventions come from the UK).
    As for concentration camps,we are constantly being told we are responsible,but now we know the truth.

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    I have seen a picture of American plains Indian tipis behind a stockade that predates the Boer wars in Africa. I have been searching the net for those photos but can't find them.

    If this were the case that would make concentration camps a American invention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randwulf View Post

    What a load of xxxxxxxx. What about all the good things we have done for the world,which far outweighs the negative (like the fact that 40% of the worlds inventions come from the UK).
    As for concentration camps,we are constantly being told we are responsible,but now we know the truth.
    The good things are not the topic of this thread. The thread is dedicated to searching the truth about who invented concentration camps. It's not about hating the British or loving the British. Although as I said, I doubt it was the British who were the first to use them, or I wouldn't have started the thread for clarification.

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    I've thought about this topic many times myself.

    The most popular view is the Germans invented it in WWII. You'll see what I mean if you search for concentration camp on Google. Todesengel pointed it. Everything leads you to pages about nazis and links to the most famous camps.

    The second most popular view is the British invented it during the Boer wars. But that's not the first time camps internment existed either.

    The ones in Cuba, where the words "concentration camps" were first used is a good result of research, but I've found two older examples.

    One is the one about American-Indians in the USA, which was talked about already.

    However, I've found an even older one:

    During France's occupation of Algeria, large numbers of Algerians were forced into "tent cities" and concentration camps during the initial French invasion in 1830s and particularly during the Algerian War of Independence. During the latter conflict, whole villages which were suspected to have supported the FLN were rounded up in such camps. During the early part of the colonial period, such camps were used mostly to forcably remove Arabs, Berbers and Turks from the fertile areas of land and settle primarlily French, Spanish and Maltese settlers. It has been estimated that between 1830 and 1900 between 15 and 25% of the Algerian population died in such camps.
    The source:
    http://history101.multiply.com/journal/item/51

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