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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossi View Post

    The same kind of arguments are used by pro-immigration multiculturalists.
    This is sad, I pose a question and you reply with an accusation. Usually intelligent debates don't work like that. Alas maybe things work differently in your part of Germany, where one doesn't have to have any logic, and can just whisk away opposition by giving them a bad name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossi View Post
    What a load of NONSENSE. Countries didn't exist back then and ethnicities weren't formed, so my ancestors didn't immigrate. They settled and populated Germany. If Germans immigrate to America now, that's not settlement.
    The original Germanics who set foot in America were also settlers. They did not immigrate, but settled and populated this soil. They built the nation we are part of today and as a consequence, their descendents should be the ones dictating who should be accepted here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    Far more than there should be. There are enough on this forum too.
    Well I am truly sorry, if they do exist, because I would have to agree with you their ancestors left your nation state for better or worse. Hopefully they are being misinterpreted as being members of your blood or genes rather than your culture or nation.

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    To be honest, I wouldn't like this topic to turn into another one of those 20 page German vs. American arguments. As interesting as those disagreements are, there are threads about those already.
    Could people here just focus on my original question? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    Far more than there should be. There are enough on this forum too.
    Including the one who owns it and was courteous enough to allow your communist viewpoints? Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

    I have met many expatriates that had been interred in Texas prison camps during the war. One man I remember meeting as a kid said that the reason he never went back is because almost all of his family had been killed. His wife, children, parents, all of them dead.
    Almost every one that I met had come from areas inside the former GDR and made their decision to stay either because everything they knew back in Germany lay in ruins or to simply avoid communist rule.
    I consider these men to be very much my kin and I have always showed them proper respect.
    Everyone of them still consider themselves to be German through and through.

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    I guess I would hope they identify as American or they should go to where they do identify with the nation and culture. There isn't much of a point in immigrating to a country and still identifying yourself as the country your parents or grandparents came from. Unless I misunderstood the question and your talking about ancestry or ethnic identification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronan View Post
    Including the one who owns it and was courteous enough to allow your communist viewpoints? Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
    National communist.
    What are you talking about anyway? The one who owns this forum is an American of Anglo-Saxon ancestry and he doesn't consider himself to be a German.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    What are you talking about anyway? The one who owns this forum is an American of Anglo-Saxon ancestry and he doesn't consider himself to be a German.
    I had been led to believe otherwise. Please accept apologies for my ignorance.

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    Back to the topic at hand. Yes I know few Germans that have imgrated here and I do consider them my country men. I have personaly noticed very little differances in their culture from the Americans with German blood.
    I do live in a area where alot of second and third generation Americans live, so my views might not represent all Americans.

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    I respect them as long as they are genuine and can handle responsibility. We don't need any more people who want the state to pamper them with jobs, health care and housing, we have plenty here.

    I would also expect them to remember where they came from. They should however, have full intentions to adapt to this way of life. They should be prepared to face the challenges and strife here. If they can do this than fine. If not, they are better off in their nation state. America has always been for the daring.

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