View Poll Results: Germanic or Teutonic, which do you prefer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    I find it amusing that you think I don't get your profoundly simplistic assertion, and that I did not address it in my post.



    How old are you? Really, I get the impression you are about twelve.
    Just because I happen to disagree with you, and am not pro-Nazi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    Just because I happen to disagree with you, and am not pro-Nazi?
    Not at all. It is your depth of reasoning that gives me this impression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouse Shadow View Post
    Perhaps it might be respectful, and a little bit devious if we start refering to our people, all of them as the Great Northern Tribe.
    Perhaps it might be respectful and a little bit devious if we started referring to our people, all of them as "our folk" or "our kin" or "our people". Between each other you don't need anything else. A label for the entirety of our folk is just needed when describing who and what we are to outsiders.

    I see where you're coming from, as a lack of humility is where the Slavs take their name from: Old Church Slavic словъ < I.E. *kleu- "to hear"; forenames on "-slav" = "-fame". It's where the Bashkir people take their name from (baş "head" + qort "wolf"), etc.

    If we wished to be equally arrogant, then we might just as well pick the term Aryan. This would actually point at our origin, as it is likely composed from the IE root *ar- which is basically in everything to do with agriculture; dating back right at the point of even pre-Germanic IE ethnogenesis.

    So far I don't like any term for its entirety, but TBH it doesn't matter what we call ourselves to outsiders. If we called ourselves "Germanics" and they understood that to be synonymous with "Germans" then that's to their detriment, because they'd underestimate us gravely.

    For ourselves, "our folk" will do. That way we also don't have the problem of dealing with the issue as to who falls into a certain nomenclature and who doesn't; people will themselves decide who they consider as their folk and at some point a general maxim/span would settle.

    This would likely resolve automatically around including most/all Germanics by design, I guess I've all told you the story before about the Italian boy and the Swedish girl at school, and who was taken as the foreigner despite being more geographically proximate.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huginn ok Muninn View Post
    Not at all. It is your depth of reasoning that gives me this impression.
    And yet you have shown none at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    And in any case, having looked at all the evidence myself, I can safely say that the Nazis were bad. Their socialist policies were a step in the right direction, but their warmongering and attacks on civil liberties were evil.
    Oh no you haven't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Nazi's were never bad. Jew's painted them as bad. Evidence PROVES that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Oh crap, I think I'm going to sneeze again! *Ah AH AHH CHOOO-TROLL-B*LLSHIT!*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Perhaps it might be respectful and a little bit devious if we started referring to our people, all of them as "our folk" or "our kin" or "our people". Between each other you don't need anything else. A label for the entirety of our folk is just needed when describing who and what we are to outsiders.

    I see where you're coming from, as a lack of humility is where the Slavs take their name from: Old Church Slavic словъ < I.E. *kleu- "to hear"; forenames on "-slav" = "-fame". It's where the Bashkir people take their name from (baş "head" + qort "wolf"), etc.

    If we wished to be equally arrogant, then we might just as well pick the term Aryan. This would actually point at our origin, as it is likely composed from the IE root *ar- which is basically in everything to do with agriculture; dating back right at the point of even pre-Germanic IE ethnogenesis.

    So far I don't like any term for its entirety, but TBH it doesn't matter what we call ourselves to outsiders. If we called ourselves "Germanics" and they understood that to be synonymous with "Germans" then that's to their detriment, because they'd underestimate us gravely.

    For ourselves, "our folk" will do. That way we also don't have the problem of dealing with the issue as to who falls into a certain nomenclature and who doesn't; people will themselves decide who they consider as their folk and at some point a general maxim/span would settle.

    This would likely resolve automatically around including most/all Germanics by design, I guess I've all told you the story before about the Italian boy and the Swedish girl at school, and who was taken as the foreigner despite being more geographically proximate.
    But 'Our Folk' is sooooo uninspiring. Aryan has been slandered by the spew media/propaganda engine for decades. Well, to the average Aussie at least, Aryan means, elite, snobby, want's to kill inferior, etc, etc. Conotative elements to the general public are pretty negative sorry to say.

    Even the German name is too, to a much lesser degree. So long as the word holocaust keeps appearing 'anywhere', Germany, Germanic, etc will still be negatively associated by the spew hate machine.

    Come on, what else can we add then? What are we really famous for? Apart from Isaac Newton (my hero!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouse Shadow View Post
    But 'Our Folk' is sooooo uninspiring.
    I don't know - I find it very inspiring every time a speaker talks of "our folk". It reinforces me with the two important points: That there is a common bond - our FOLK, and that it is not any folk but - OUR folk. This is inspiring enough for me.

    Come on, what else can we add then? What are we really famous for? Apart from Isaac Newton (my hero!)
    Giving the world fear, culture and superiority since 9CE.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    I don't know - I find it very inspiring every time a speaker talks of "our folk". It reinforces me with the two important points: That there is a common bond - our FOLK, and that it is not any folk but - OUR folk. This is inspiring enough for me.
    For some reason, I've just pictured you as a doting old grandma. But still, 'our folk' could reference a small township and potentially no other. It's not generally used in a global context. For instance, someone over in Germany could be saying, 'our folk', but no one in Australia would be remotely interested. If something like Great Northern Tribe was used, it makes you wonder, eh,. Northern? Tribe? I'm (probably English etc) Does that mean, (to the observer), me? Simply because it's using a universal term.

    Agriculture, yeah, to a point. But not anymore.

    Giving the world fear, culture and superiority since 9CE.
    Ger-maniac then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mouse Shadow View Post
    For some reason, I've just pictured you as a doting old grandma. But still, 'our folk' could reference a small township and potentially no other. It's not generally used in a global context.
    Well, that's what I like about the concept of "our folk" --- it can be seen both on a local level, but also on a regional, national and global level. It can be seen as applying at every level, because those around you who're from the same background - whether referring to the village, the tribe, the nation or the whole meta-ethnicity can be "your folk" at the same time, they are just different instances of the same thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mouse Shadow View Post
    Ger-maniac then.
    Well, our ancestors were fond of using spears (or: gars), so well...
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Well, that's what I like about the concept of "our folk" --- it can be seen both on a local level, but also on a regional, national and global level. It can be seen as applying at every level, because those around you who're from the same background - whether referring to the village, the tribe, the nation or the whole meta-ethnicity can be "your folk" at the same time, they are just different instances of the same thing.
    I do not see other nations of our meta-ethnicity as 'my folk'.
    I also do not see a reason to do so, Nation/Volk is allready the widest concept of our folk, isn't it?

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