Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 13

Thread: Push to Give 16-Year-Olds the Vote in Federal Elections

  1. #1
    Funding Member
    „Friend of Germanics”
    Funding Membership Inactive
    Nachtengel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last Online
    @
    Ethnicity
    German
    Gender
    Posts
    6,361
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    198
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,150
    Thanked in
    665 Posts

    Push to Give 16-Year-Olds the Vote in Federal Elections

    SIXTEEN and 17-year-olds could be given a voluntary right to vote, under changes to be canvassed by the Federal Government later this year.
    While the Liberal Party's newest recruit, Francesca Perrottet, 16, said the shift could inspire young people to get involved in politics and widen the pool of leadership talent, senior Liberals shunned the idea.

    Special Minister of State Joe Ludwig said the government would raise the issue in its second electoral green paper later this year.

    The move, which comes more than 35 years after the voting age was lowered from 21 to 18, will spark strong views from all sides of politics.

    It follows fierce and ongoing debate over reforms to political donations and funding, which is part of the first stage of the government's electoral reform agenda.

    "The Rudd government is committed to reforming and modernising Australia's electoral system," Senator Ludwig said.

    "While noting there are alternative mechanisms that enable young Australians to have a voice, this issue will be addressed in the second green paper."

    Australian National University adjunct professor of political science John Warhurst said the idea was not ridiculous.

    "I don't have a firm opinion one way or the other. But the way society is moving ... I think it's time to look again at the age when people can start voting. It may be that a voluntary vote is the way to go."

    Professor Warhurst said there was a case for letting young people vote at a time when they were studying civics education.

    However, he was inclined to support lowering the age to 17 rather than 16.

    Senator Ludwig will this week use Enrol to Vote Week to tackle the fact that 1.2 million people are missing from the electoral roll.

    He said young people were the most under-represented, with one in five 18- to 24-year-olds not enrolled to vote.

    Youth Action and Policy Association executive officer Reynato Reodica said it was fantastic the government had raised the issue.

    "This is something that for a long time young people have been asking for," he said.

    "Young people contribute to our society, they are part of the working population and they have something to add to the public debate around issues that affect their lives."

    However, Liberal frontbencher Nick Minchin, who has strongly supported voluntary voting, said it would be a mistake to lower the voting age to 16 or 17.

    "It's a privilege in a democracy to vote, and should come with adulthood," he said.
    http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/stor...24-948,00.html

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Alizon Device's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Last Online
    Monday, June 25th, 2012 @ 10:00 PM
    Ethnicity
    English
    Gender
    Posts
    466
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5
    Thanked in
    4 Posts
    However, Liberal frontbencher Nick Minchin, who has strongly supported voluntary voting, said it would be a mistake to lower the voting age to 16 or 17.

    "It's a privilege in a democracy to vote, and should come with adulthood," he said.
    This is one of the fundamental problems with this system of things, which pompously declares itself as 'Democracy'.

    The criteria for who has the right to vote is all wrong!
    Age has nothing to do with intelligence and common sense.

    Most members on this forum will have formed superior political views and Weltanschauungen by the time they were 15 years old, to those held by a large proportion of 40 and 50 year old sheeple of that same time period.

    Let's cut the crap about the age to vote. Abolish an age limit.
    Introduce an IQ test, to be taken before anyone can vote to decide who runs the countries of the West.
    Also, introduce a socio-political general knowledge exam, so only the people with the valid, relevant knowledge are given the 'honour' of voting.

  3. #3
    Moderator
    „Friend of Germanics”
    Funding Membership Inactive
    Sigurd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Last Online
    3 Weeks Ago @ 09:35 PM
    Status
    Available
    Ethnicity
    German
    Ancestry
    Bavarii, Saxones, Suebi, Alamanni
    Subrace
    Borreby + Atlantonordoid
    Country
    Germany Germany
    Location
    Einöde in den Alpen
    Gender
    Age
    32
    Zodiac Sign
    Libra
    Family
    Engaged
    Politics
    Tradition & Homeland
    Religion
    Odinist
    Posts
    9,129
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    77
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    378
    Thanked in
    265 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Alizon Device View Post
    Introduce an IQ test, to be taken before anyone can vote to decide who runs the countries of the West.
    Are you mad? That would give our ideological enemies the edge, look at all the pseudo-intellectual think-tanks which take their ideological footing directly from the ideas of the 1968 student revolutions, and by living in their ivory towers won't ever realise how impossible to practice their twisted worldview is.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

  4. #4
    Anachronism
    „Friend of Germanics”
    Funding Membership Inactive
    Huginn ok Muninn's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Last Online
    @
    Ethnicity
    Germanic
    Ancestry
    Germany, Norway, England
    Subrace
    Nordeby
    Country
    United States United States
    State
    Texas Texas
    Gender
    Zodiac Sign
    Leo
    Family
    Single adult
    Politics
    Farther right than you.
    Posts
    3,140
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    801
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    916
    Thanked in
    456 Posts
    They only want more younger people voting because it means more a more leftist electorate. Even intelligent people form their world view based upon what is taught them, and our schools in the West are corrupt centers of cultural marxist indoctrination. They are less and less concerned with academic learning and more and more concerned with forcing people to comply with the diktats of the multicult religion. The less time people have to come to their senses, the better, in the minds of the inquisitors who rely upon election to further their tyranny.

  5. #5
    Senior Member

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Last Online
    Sunday, April 11th, 2010 @ 12:25 AM
    Ethnicity
    English
    Ancestry
    Wales, England, Ireland, Vinland
    Subrace
    Nordid
    Country
    Vinland Vinland
    Gender
    Age
    32
    Politics
    National Socialist
    Religion
    Atheist; Christian/Pagan
    Posts
    376
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5
    Thanked in
    5 Posts
    Choosing who can vote in a democracy... entirely against the purpose.

    All it does it prove how a democracy is a false means for a political elite to control masses.

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Alizon Device's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Last Online
    Monday, June 25th, 2012 @ 10:00 PM
    Ethnicity
    English
    Gender
    Posts
    466
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    5
    Thanked in
    4 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Are you mad?
    Well, we've corresponded with each other for 4 years, so you tell me.
    Personally, I believe that, no, I'm not mad.

    That would give our ideological enemies the edge, look at all the pseudo-intellectual think-tanks which take their ideological footing directly from the ideas of the 1968 student revolutions,
    LOL!
    Like, we have the 'Edge' right now?
    God, Aberdeen must be an oasis of monocultural Shangri-la!

    I only commented on this little aside-Thread about 'democracy' out of a possible academic debate about the concept, and, credit to you Siggy, you have countered.

    As a revolutionary Nationalsocialist, I couldn't care less how that stinking system of things polices itself and rules its construct.

  7. #7
    Moderator
    „Friend of Germanics”
    Funding Membership Inactive
    Sigurd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Last Online
    3 Weeks Ago @ 09:35 PM
    Status
    Available
    Ethnicity
    German
    Ancestry
    Bavarii, Saxones, Suebi, Alamanni
    Subrace
    Borreby + Atlantonordoid
    Country
    Germany Germany
    Location
    Einöde in den Alpen
    Gender
    Age
    32
    Zodiac Sign
    Libra
    Family
    Engaged
    Politics
    Tradition & Homeland
    Religion
    Odinist
    Posts
    9,129
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    77
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    378
    Thanked in
    265 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Alizon Device View Post
    LOL!
    Like, we have the 'Edge' right now?
    God, Aberdeen must be an oasis of monocultural Shangri-la!
    LOL, no - that's not what I meant. We don't have the edge now. But if we make voting dependant on IQ, then we're going to found ourselves in hardly a better situation at present.

    The reason being - it doesn't matter whether the stupid or the clever 51% vote for you to give you an absolute majority. 51% is 51% - as long as you have enough intellectuals to lead the mob.

    On the other hand, if you give the vote only to intellectuals and academics, then we would be facing even more of an uphill battle --- the masses are easily convinced, once a certain amount of people are fuelled with a certain idea it is essentially a self-runner.

    However, the academics would dig out many, many more counter-arguments based on their perverse beliefs. You know what I mean anyway, right? We can just as well use current "democracy" towards our ends at this stage --- if we find it corrupt and un-natural at a later stage, we can still do away with it once in power.

    But it's a matter of getting into power first. Up till that point all the fancy ideas we have to improve the country will only be useful on paper, but won't take root in actual national policy.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

  8. #8
    Funding Member
    „Friend of Germanics”
    Funding Membership Inactive
    Ingvaeonic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Online
    Friday, July 12th, 2019 @ 02:02 AM
    Ethnicity
    English/German combo
    Country
    Australia Australia
    Location
    Eastern Australia
    Gender
    Zodiac Sign
    Sagittarius
    Posts
    1,752
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    12
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    36
    Thanked in
    32 Posts
    Lower the voting age to 16! They had better not. 18-year-old Australians are too stupid to vote as it is; that's why mismanagers and incompetents get voted into government; and political correctness and multiculturalism have become recurring themes in Australia because of 18-y-o suffrage: the young vote for it and favour it. Lower the voting age? Not on your nelly. Indeed, I'm of the opposite view: I'd be in favour of raising the voting age to 24 or 25. In fact, I'd go back to the old days of property suffrage when you had to own property of a certain value and/or have a certain income to be enfranchised; those on social welfare, the criminally convicted, and paupers were all denied the vote. That's the way it should be.
    Between the devil and the deep blue sea.

  9. #9
    Account Inactive

    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Last Online
    Thursday, July 5th, 2012 @ 06:07 AM
    Subrace
    Atlantid
    Country
    United States United States
    Location
    Metropolis
    Gender
    Age
    40
    Family
    Single
    Occupation
    Journalist
    Religion
    Protestant
    Posts
    6,666
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    21
    Thanked in
    21 Posts
    This is a disaster!!! 16 year old kids are extremely stupid and even more liberal. If this pans out, the demise of the West will be even more imminent.

  10. #10
    Member
    Seleferth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Online
    Wednesday, March 28th, 2012 @ 10:23 PM
    Ethnicity
    English
    Country
    England England
    State
    East Anglia East Anglia
    Gender
    Age
    54
    Family
    Married
    Occupation
    Self employed
    Politics
    Centre Right
    Religion
    Christian with a touch of Pagan
    Posts
    51
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    0
    Thanked in
    0 Posts
    My stepson is 16 next week, god help us if he was allowed to vote
    Although very bright he has no COMMON SENSE the thought of him voting beggers belief. So the thought of thick chavs voting
    "But we are the people of England; and we have not spoken yet. Smile at us, pay us, pass us by. But never forget". Gilbert K Chesterton

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 2
    Last Post: Monday, July 18th, 2011, 07:31 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •