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    Post Geert Wilders: 'Israel is West's First Line of Defense'

    The Israeli newspaper Haaretz has the following interview with Geert Wilders:

    Dutch anti-Islam MP: 'Israel is West's first line of defense'

    By Cnaan Liphshiz, Haaretz Correspondent

    Israel will be a major part of Geert Wilders' next film on Islam, the rightist Dutch legislator said last week in an interview for Haaretz. He praised Avigdor Lieberman, observing "similarities" between Yisrael Beiteinu and the Party for Freedom - a small movement which has grown to become Holland's second most popular.

    Wilders, a controversial anti-immigration politician, rose to international fame last year when he released a 14-minute film entitled Fitna, which attempts to portray what he considers as Islam's "violent nature." The film, which has been viewed by millions online, provoked mass protests throughout the Muslim world.

    In April Wilders announced he was working on a sequel. Just as Fitna focused on genocidal anti-Semitism in the Muslim world, Wilders said that the sequel - which focuses on "Islamization in the West" - will show "how the forces of Islamization are specifically targeting Israel in a fight against all free societies."
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    He added: "The film will demonstrate that the fight against Israel is not territorial, and hence Israel is only the first line of defense for the West. Now it's Israel but we are next. That's why beyond solidarity, it is in Europe's interest to stand by Israel."

    Wilders is facing criminal charges for allegedly inciting hate by comparing the Koran to Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf in the original Fitna film. His party's dark horse achievement in the European Parliament elections earlier this month, he said, is connected to the judicial system's decision to prosecute him.

    The Party for Freedom - which has only nine seats in Dutch parliament - won five seats in the June 4 European elections, making it the second largest of all Dutch parties in Brussels. A recent poll shows that if elections were held now, the Party would become the country's largest or second largest.

    "The appeals court's decision in January to prosecute me angered many people, as did the decision by the government of the U.K. not to let me enter Britain," Wilders told Haaretz. He added some of the anger manifested itself in the European Parliament election.

    According to Wilders, his party's rise in popularity is reminiscent of how Lieberman's party grew to become Israel's third largest. "Our parties may not be identical, but there are certainly more similarities than dissimilarities, and I am proud of that," Wilders said about Yisrael Beiteinu.

    "I've met Liebrman and called to congratulate him after the Israeli elections," said Wilders, who visits Israel frequently to meet with leading Israeli politicians, defense officials and opinion-shapers. "Lieberman's an intelligent, strong and clever politician and I understand why his party grew in popularity."

    Israel under Benjamin Netanyahu is, according to Wilders, safer because it doesn't automatically accept the two-state solution. But he added: "I am more concerned now about Israel's situation because of the positions of U.S. President Barack Obama."

    The president's speech in Cairo "shocked" Wilders, he says. "Until now Israel could rely on the U.S. for support even when the Europeans failed to offer it. Now Israel will have a tougher time," he added.

    "The two-state solution is an internal Israeli matter and I hesitate to interfere. But my personal belief is that there is a two state solution for the Palestinians. One of those states is called Jordan," he added.
    Wilders also said that Obama's preference for dialogue with Iran despite its ongoing drive to obtain nuclear weapons - according to Western intelligence reports - is "intolerable."

    The Party for Freedom will not join any bloc at the European Parliament, Wilders said. "We will not join an rightist party with anti-Semitic or xenophobic inclinations," he explained. "The attempts to classify us as such are the result of our rivals' panic."

    Wilders' party believes in halting immigration to the Netherlands, and banning the construction of mosques in that country. While defending gay rights and supporting animal welfare bills, the Party holds a hardliner assimilations stance on the integration of existing immigrants into Dutch society, and is consistently Eurosceptic.

    "Our achievement in the European Parliament owed partly to a protest vote by people who do not accept that their tax monies are funding highways in Portugal and subsidizing Polish farmers. They want their money back - approximately five billion euros."

    Described by some as "fascist" and "ultra-nationalist," other Dutch parties have shunned the Party for Freedom, treating it as a pariah movement. However, as its political power climbs, leading centrist politicians are advocating an alliance with Wilders, touching off a heated debate in their parties' ranks.

    "We have no power but a lot of influence, and are now a serious force which cannot be ignored," Wilders said. "I think the stale political establishment of the Netherlands doesn't quite know how to close the window that let in our party, like a cool draft of wind."

    http://www.geertwilders.nl/index.php...587&Itemid=114



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    I see Israel as terrorist catnip for ever degenerative-muslim-terrorist. It keeps a little heat off us while we get our act together in the next couple of generations! Long live Israel!

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    Israel is nothing but a parasite and inciter of hatred towards the West among the muslims, esp. against Americans (though of course the muslims would hate us anyway, just less motivated hatred without the zionist regime problem).
    I hear much in the controlled media about them being "America's greatest ally" and the "special relationship" between the U.S. and zionist regime, but I never hear them define exactly what that "relationship" really consists of (trillions of our tax $$ handed over to them, diplomatic bully boy for them) and in what way Israel actually benefits America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prodeutsch View Post
    I see Israel as terrorist catnip for ever degenerative-muslim-terrorist.
    Israel pursues a policy of state terrorism, and not everyone opposing this by the force of arms is a terrorist. As long as military personell and military targets are hit, it is part of a legal use of arms, and no terrorism.
    Quote Originally Posted by prodeutsch View Post
    It keeps a little heat off us while we get our act together in the next couple of generations!
    What do you mean? Do you think the Palestinian resistance would aim us? Anyway, if the PLO and others would blow up military installations here, they only would do what they are permitted acccording the the law of war, since the FRG, USA etc. aid (at least) one foreign party involved in that conflict.
    Quote Originally Posted by prodeutsch View Post
    Long live Israel!
    Why?
    When men cease to fight — they cease to be — Men.
    “Critics are like eunuchs in a harem; they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves.” Brendan Behan

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    The whole situation down there is pretty complex.
    The jews and the arabs are living both there for a very long time.
    If you just compare what both "races" have achieved you can see that Israel built up a democracy with a strong economy while the arabs are still too stupid to run their states properly.
    Aware of the running islamization of the whole world and especially of our european fatherlands we have to see Israel as an ally in the combat against uprising Islam in the world.

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    Here we go again...Someone mentions Israel and the anti-semites come crawlling out. There is nothing wrong with supporting Israel, all you anti-semites are just paranoid and really need to get over it! Jews aren't inherirantly evil and they don't cause all the wars and mass-immigration into European nations.

    Jews don't cause the violence in the Middle East, Islam does, now grow up you silly anti-semites because your the kind of people who hold our movement back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InvaderNat View Post
    Here we go again...Someone mentions Israel and the anti-semites come crawlling out. There is nothing wrong with supporting Israel, all you anti-semites are just paranoid and really need to get over it! Jews aren't inherirantly evil and they don't cause all the wars and mass-immigration into European nations.

    Jews don't cause the violence in the Middle East, Islam does, now grow up you silly anti-semites because your the kind of people who hold our movement back.
    A load of bullshit. Jews have exploited Germany and Europe long before the Muslims started immigrating here. Both are alien. There is something wrong with supporting Israel, and since you seem to be ignorant about the situation in Europe, I'll be glad to inform you.

    The money to support Israel, comes partly from Germany and its so-called reparations for a war that is suppose to be long over, but we even pay second generation "survivors". German blood is shed for the military effort to sustain Israel. A foreign cause. I wouldn't care less about Israel if the conflict stayed between Muslims and Jews in the desert. As far as I'm concerned they can bomb each other back to the Stone Age. But it's not like that. The money and effort to support this conflict comes out from European pockets.

    Paranoid? How is it that it's always the Jews who whine and want to ban nationalist parties in Europe? With such "allies", who needs enemies?

    The ones who hold the movement back are the philosemitics who sell their nation to the Jew. Geert Wilders is one, and he has some Jewish background anyway, so his loyalties lay with his foreign blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bärin View Post
    A load of bullshit. Jews have exploited Germany and Europe long before the Muslims started immigrating here. Both are alien. There is something wrong with supporting Israel, and since you seem to be ignorant about the situation in Europe, I'll be glad to inform you.

    The money to support Israel, comes partly from Germany and its so-called reparations for a war that is suppose to be long over, but we even pay second generation "survivors". German blood is shed for the military effort to sustain Israel. A foreign cause. I wouldn't care less about Israel if the conflict stayed between Muslims and Jews in the desert. As far as I'm concerned they can bomb each other back to the Stone Age. But it's not like that. The money and effort to support this conflict comes out from European pockets.

    Paranoid? How is it that it's always the Jews who whine and want to ban nationalist parties in Europe? With such "allies", who needs enemies?

    The ones who hold the movement back are the philosemitics who sell their nation to the Jew. Geert Wilders is one, and he has some Jewish background anyway, so his loyalties lay with his foreign blood.
    The worst thing with the financial support is that we also support the palestineans massively with money for their development. But the only thing they develop is hate and terror against Israel.
    So Germany pays for this conflict by supplying Israel with money and weapons and supporting even the Arabs.
    The German government thinks that we can buy us their love or friendship with that. But the Jews will always hate us and the Arabs will always insult us as infidels and will try to convert or kill us.
    We should stop all financial help for those countries by now and take the money for way more important issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beowulf wodenson View Post
    Israel is nothing but a parasite and inciter of hatred towards the West among the muslims, esp. against Americans (though of course the muslims would hate us anyway, just less motivated hatred without the zionist regime problem).
    I hear much in the controlled media about them being "America's greatest ally" and the "special relationship" between the U.S. and zionist regime, but I never hear them define exactly what that "relationship" really consists of (trillions of our tax $$ handed over to them, diplomatic bully boy for them) and in what way Israel actually benefits America.
    Spot on.

    We wouldn't have had these current "disagreements" with the Islamics if it weren't for the fact that the pro-Israel lobby sucked us into their cultural and territorial disputes with the Palestinians and their Arab neighbours.

    We wouldn't have had our countries flooded with Islamic and other third world immigrants if it weren't for liberals, marxists, feminazis and human rights nutcases (and guess which demographic typically forms the core of their leadership).

    We wouldn't have had our societies transformed to embrace "diversity and all its benefits" if it weren't for the tireless efforts of the liberals.

    Our countries are paying out billions and billions in extorsion money and financial and military "donations" to Israel. For what? So that they can live it up in their Jewish paradise (with a few token Arabs with reduced rights) at our expense while we MUST ACCEPT the "benefits" of diversity and being made into second class citizens in our own countries?

    The notion that Israel is somehow a "line of defense" for the West is idiotic. It's unbelievable that people can be that stupid to swallow this tripe. Look at the map. Israel is a miniscule piece of real estate at the bottom corner of the Mediterranean sea. How exactly is it "stopping Islam" from reaching the West?

    The answer is that it doesn't. Islam comes in through the West's front door with the cooperation and approval of the liberals (who are usually pro-Israel) who control our countries. They sponsor them, clothe them, feed them and house them with our taxes and national assets while we are told to embrace affirmative action.

    Israel isn't our concern or our problem and it doesn't do anything for our security whatsoever. It has worsened our security situation, it has poisoned our relations with a number of Islamic states and Israel's supporters are extremely active in flooding our countries with undesireables and the implementation of policies which are disenfranchising us. They frequently sponsor and use Islamic terrorists in Eastern Europe and Russia to terrorise the local populations and to increase their control over those areas.

    Geert Wilders is a charlatan. Both Islam and Judaism are extreme threats to our independence and way of life. Unless the influence and power of both are dealt with we'll lose complete control of our countries within a few decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InvaderNat View Post
    Here we go again...Someone mentions Israel and the anti-semites come crawlling out. There is nothing wrong with supporting Israel, all you anti-semites are just paranoid and really need to get over it! Jews aren't inherirantly evil and they don't cause all the wars and mass-immigration into European nations.

    Jews don't cause the violence in the Middle East, Islam does, now grow up you silly anti-semites because your the kind of people who hold our movement back.
    Ahh yes, the obligatory "you are all anti-Semitic" squeals when the goyim dare criticise God's Chosen People. After all, the "Semites" (do you even understand what a Semite is???? ) are untouchable and above all forms of criticism, right? Only native Europeans, negroes and other cultures are fair game?


    You obviously read the manual on confronting Internet based criticism but in case you need some more cliches for your arsenal, here you go.

    http://www.middle-east-info.org/take/wujshasbara.pdf

    Now don't go around crying that us goyim can't sometimes be generous eh?

    Nobody is claiming that all Jews are inherently evil or cause all wars and immigration into Europe, however, your claim that "Islam" causes all problems in the Middle East exposes you for being the unbalanced fraud that you are.

    Israel isn't our responsibility or our problem. It's time they started paying their own way and took care of their own security issues and relations with their neighbours and stopped involving us in their BS.

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