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    Quote Originally Posted by Torch_Bearer View Post
    The Germans who left for Africa or South America may have stayed closer to their roots, but that's only because they were surrounded by third-world savages. The American situation was quite different.
    It doesn't matter why Germans lost their identity and assimilated into another group, the fact remains they did, and are thus not Germans anymore. That doesn't mean they are bad people now, I even meet some very great Americans from time to time (mostly with German ancestry though ).
    MockTurtle was a great contributor on this forum, and certainly above most of my contemporary German brothers in regards to philosophy and spirit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peoples Observer View Post
    Enough already of the North German/Prussian/Protestant culture against the South German/Austrian/Catholic culture.

    Lets all work together for a Whiter, brighter, GERMAN future.

    Regional German in-fighting is counter productive and achieves nothing but wasted energy.

    I'm decended from North German/Saxon/Protestant lineage, but accept ANY German from Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Volksdeutscher from America, Canada, Australia or wherever as long as they are proud and righteous Germans !
    You are an American, not a German. Who Americans accept is irrelevant to German nationalists. Americans, Canadians and Australians aren't Volksdeutsche. The term is used exclusively for Germans from Eastern and South-Eastern Europe, who speak the language and live as Germans.

    Germans don't want to work together with you, haven't you got the message?

    Ami Go Home !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossi View Post
    You are an American, not a German. Who Americans accept is irrelevant to German nationalists. Americans, Canadians and Australians aren't Volksdeutsche. The term is used exclusively for Germans from Eastern and South-Eastern Europe, who speak the language and live as Germans.

    Germans don't want to work together with you, haven't you got the message?
    And who wants to work with a guy who uses an avatar of a Communist East German trooper ?

    Who needs Red East Germans anyways ?

    I've used Wa**en S* and Wehrma**t soldiers in my avatars.

    I'm more German than you are. I stem from PURE Saxon blood from Bremen. I speak German fluently and think with a German mind in all matters. My grandfather was in one of the two above mentioned units in WW2.

    You may have Slavic blood from the Russians in your lineage ?

    So what if I'm born in a "colony". I'm of pure un-mixed Saxon blood.

    At least I know my lineage.

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    Being a man myself, I know that sometimes you desperately feel like exhibiting that you've got balls, but I think debating who is more German than the other is taking it to the ridiculous.

    You both have fair points, but I'm not convinced the mode of debate you two are commencing to practice is going to get very far. You don't get a free ride to Hermannsdenkmal for establish that one is more German than the other.

    You're both German by blood, but one is evidently a German-descended American whilst the other is a German-descended German. Discussions over who is more German become moot point there, and the Americans vs. Europeans debate is getting a little old anyway.

    The energy you two are about to waste is used much better to debate the topic at hand, Americanism hindering over Germany and Germans getting uptight about it and German-Americans having German ancestors are long-known facts that are much of a waste of energy to debate. It's colloquially called stating the blatantly obvious.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Being a man myself, I know that sometimes you desperately feel like exhibiting that you've got balls, but I think debating who is more German than the other is taking it to the ridiculous.

    You both have fair points, but I'm not convinced the mode of debate you two are commencing to practice is going to get very far. You don't get a free ride to Hermannsdenkmal for establish that one is more German than the other.

    You're both German by blood, but one is evidently a German-descended American whilst the other is a German-descended German. Discussions over who is more German become moot point there, and the Americans vs. Europeans debate is getting a little old anyway.

    The energy you two are about to waste is used much better to debate the topic at hand, Americanism hindering over Germany and Germans getting uptight about it and German-Americans having German ancestors are long-known facts that are much of a waste of energy to debate. It's colloquially called stating the blatantly obvious.
    Fair enough Sigi !

    I don't like to waste energy, but the guy used provocation.

    I'm of the same blood even though born in a "colony".

    Kind of like say for instance Josef Men**e's son is born in a South American country.
    The son is speaking German and Living German.
    Is that a fault of his own that he was not born in the Fatherland ?

    Further more my post was aimed at UNIFYING GERMANS and this guy sees fit to attack that.

    Well I give you credit for being the "Austrian King Solomon" in being wise most of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peoples Observer View Post
    Kind of like say for instance Josef Men**e's son is born in a South American country.
    Rolf Mengele was actually born in Germany.

    The son is speaking German and Living German.
    Precisely, so he is a German. He is, however, a traitor.

    Do you live as a German and speak German?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todesengel View Post
    Rolf Mengele was actually born in Germany.


    Precisely, so he is a German. He is, however, a traitor.

    Do you live as a German and speak German?
    I was making an example in the Meng**e case, the example focusing on a German being born in a foreign land, but still being loyal to his German roots.

    Yes I speak German, live German, married a Bavarian woman (born in Munich)
    have fought for German causes which will not be discussed here.

    A pure blooded German, even born in Japan or Iran, is still racially a German blooded person who can be include in the Volksdeutsche category. As long as he keeps his blood pure and lives a German lifestyle, loyal to his German roots.

    Herr Hitler as well wanted to include ALL Germans worldwide into a new Reich.

    Have you folks ever heard of the German-American Bund ?

    According to the East German Ossi, they can't count as German, since they lived in America.

    I believe in a united Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, South Tyrol, North Schleswig, Pommerania, Silesia, Alsace, Sudetenland.

    I also believe that racial Germans worlwide are also welcome into the German Reich if they stay loyal to Germania.

    We have no use for Russian-lovers, Commies or other deviants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ossi View Post
    The music in that song, especially the chorus, sounds an awful lot like a song we use to sing in Sunday school in the 60s.

    Edit: The tune for "Ami go Home" & "Jesus Loves the Little Children" both come from the American Civil War song Tramp! Tramp! Tramp!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peoples Observer View Post
    I was making an example in the Meng**e case, the example focusing on a German being born in a foreign land, but still being loyal to his German roots.
    It was a bad example since he was born in Germany.

    Anyway, it has nothing to do with where you were born and live. It has to do with how you live and how you identify.

    Yes I speak German, live German, married a Bavarian woman (born in Munich)
    have fought for German causes which will not be discussed here.

    A pure blooded German, even born in Japan or Iran, is still racially a German blooded person who can be include in the Volksdeutsche category. As long as he keeps his blood pure and lives a German lifestyle, loyal to his German roots.

    Herr Hitler as well wanted to include ALL Germans worldwide into a new Reich.
    Volksdeutsche from Europe don't consider themselves Russian, Polish, Romanian, Czech, Hungarian and the like. German-Americans on the other hand, like to dip their foot in both ponds, as the hyphenated name implies. Germans don't like this. You are either one of us, or one of them. And if you are one of us, you can't be one of them too. Simple as that. We don't accept double loyalties. So, you can't be "German-American". You are either German, or American. Most Germans in the USA chose to be American over German. Many don't speak German and in WWII chose to fight against their motherland.

    Have you folks ever heard of the German-American Bund ?
    Is that the society which accepts Jews and Negroes as long as they had a German speaking ancestor?

    According to the East German Ossi, they can't count as German, since they lived in America.
    Ossi accepts people who live in other countries, but he is skeptical of the Anglosphere. You have several times preached white unity. White unity is alien to Germany. A German nationalist would be hard pressed to unite with Poles or Russians. It's an American ideology, which wasn't designed for Europe, but some Americans keep insisting to import it here. Don't be surprised if it gets rejected and met with hostility.

    I believe in a united Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, South Tyrol, North Schleswig, Pommerania, Silesia, Alsace, Sudetenland.

    I also believe that racial Germans worlwide are also welcome into the German Reich if they stay loyal to Germania.
    In case you didn't notice, this is what we want too. You're barking at the wrong tree. However a united Germany isn't compatible with regional supremacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todesengel View Post
    You have several times preached white unity. White unity is alien to Germany. A German nationalist would be hard pressed to unite with Poles or Russians. It's an American ideology, which wasn't designed for Europe, but some Americans keep insisting to import it here.
    Well if you are against White Unity than thats your choice.

    Why are you so hostile to Germans being allied with other White Racialist nationalities ?

    In case you did not realize it Germans are White.

    In case you had not noticed. Whites in gereral and Germanics in particular are a rapidly diminishing breed in this colored world.

    You should be damned glad to have other Germanics on your side in the coming battles.

    As long as other White Nationalists are not harming German interests, what is wrong with an alliance in the struggle against the non-Whites ?

    Danes, Norwegians, Swedes, Dutch, English, Irish, Scots, Flemings, Walloons along with many French, Italians, Spaniards, Finns, Latvians etc........ can all be allied to Germans against the multitudes of enemies.

    This is not saying that they mix in with Germans, but to fight alongside Germans in our common anti-communist, anti-zionist, anti-muslim, anti-miscegenist struggle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Todesengel View Post

    Is that the society which accepts Jews and Negroes as long as they had a German speaking ancestor?
    Anyone who thinks that the German-American Bund accepted the above mentioned groups is either on drugs and/or mentally challenged.

    The G-A-P was an Auslandsorganisation sanctioned by the German NSDAP.

    I notice a pattern that the East Germans on this board biased against me. They can hate me all they please for being NS and for being able to work with other Germanic White groups who are like-minded. It won't deter me.

    And by the way just being born in Germany is not enough.
    You must be a dedicated NS adherent and willing to sacrifice all for the Volk.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ossi View Post
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    You are an American, not a German. Who Americans accept is irrelevant to German nationalists. Americans, Canadians and Australians aren't Volksdeutsche.
    American citizenship means nothing.

    Racial lineage, German Racial loyalty, cultural upbringing and language skills account for who is German.

    By those terms I'm a German. And when I move to Germany I'll be a fully fledged German.

    Even though the BRD citizenship is little better than the American citizenship.

    And by the way the opinions of anti-social Red Germans count for nothing.

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