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    "Combat 18" Nazi Gang Jailed in Tyrol

    Two men have been jailed and a third fined for breaking laws on neo-Nazi activities after a court heard how they had founded a neo-Nazi gang.

    The trio, aged 20 to 29, were convicted in an Innsbruck court after setting up a "Combat 18" - a code phrase among neo-Nazis for "Combat Troop Adolf Hitler" – gang and getting Nazi tattoos. They were also found to be in possession of T-shirts, CDs and computer data with Nazi inscriptions and songs.

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    From the news article:

    All three pleaded guilty to the charges and during the trial one of the defendants told the court: "We were completely drunk at all our meetings."
    Typical. They do nothing to reduce the stereotypes people have of them - this only reinforces them. I think that most people will put you into this category if you even have anything good to say about Hitler. Such is the power of the media.
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    I hope Sigurd is okay. He comes from Innsbruck. But he´s not one of these "Combat 18" Nazi types.

    "Judge of your natural character by what you do in your dreams" - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    I am relatively unfamiliar with classic jew-media skinheads seeing as I live in South Africa (though they may exist here, I haven’t seen/heard of any). I would have to say that my primary encounters with them are limited to those dictated by our 'friends' in Hollywood along the lines of movies such as American History X, The Believer and White Lies in addition to recent German news reports.

    I find this subject interesting seeing as I subscribe to traditional National Socialist beliefs, in addition to this I have developed an interest for some of the German rechtsrock/hatecore music, current German nationalist politics (in the broad spectrum) and the revision of WW2 history as well as the study of militaries from this period.

    I realize that my interests may place me in the stereotypical neo-Nazi camp but I do not behave in the hooliganistic or anti-social manner these groups are most often brand marked with in the jew-media (for the record I don't consider myself a 'Nazi', rather a National Socialist ). My current view of neo-Nazism is twofold and is as follows:

    Given the disorderly reputation assigned to such groups by the jew-media they may be detrimental to general Germanic racial, cultural and spiritual preservation efforts because the middle-classes have disdain for them and they may therefore hamper the gain of mass support needed for positive change. Furthermore, how some of these types would fit into revived nationalist governments, societies and militaries whilst sporting a bald head, leather/bomber jacket, 'Kraft durch Alkohol' T-shirt, tattoos and piercings is beyond my comprehension.

    Conversely, I find that neo-Nazism serves as a good alternative for those individuals who used to be denizens of the leftist subcultures (like Punk and other Antifanten) who in the end have inevitably been disgruntled by Marxist/Liberal egalitarian lies (I may be viewed as an example of this to some extent ). In addition to this; individuals who may be classified as typical neo-Nazis could fill the ranks of paramilitary organizations in revived nationalist states in light of their tendency too take great risks despite PC persecution. This will require the enforcement of strict discipline within such organizations and a standardised uniform and a more creative but still conservative haircut .

    Please feel free to criticize my ideas on this topic, for it is only through constructive criticism that I can develop a Weltanschauung that may positively contribute to general Germanic wellbeing. If any German Skadi members can offer information (or point me toward it) on the history and current state of neo-Nazism in Germany and how it relates to/influences the formal nationalist parties (like the NPD), so-called 'Autonomen Nationalisten', the British, American and Canadian Neo-Nazi movements, projects such as Volksfront-Medien.org usw. it would greatly be appreciated!

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    Drunk at meetings? That's retarded. I've seen one time too many examples of how alcohol screws up the nationalist scene. Such guys are more dangerous to themselves than to the government. It's disgusting how our countries put every effort into eradicating "nazism" and rounding up and throwing people in prison for the 'wrong' beliefs, while the crimes of immigrants are overlooked and growing.

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    Thanks for the concern Valky but I'm OK, and uncharged. I stopped being fascinated by that skinhead-BS some four years ago.

    I am however quite familiar with the background of the case.

    The whole thing is typically two things: For one, the media twisting things sensationally. And for another, a heralding of bad comradeship.

    The background was that the 29-year-old had rented a place in a village some 7km west of Innsbruck, intending it as a safe haven of meeting for Nationalists of all walks of life, since central Tyrol was lacking that since the pub in Innsbruck was shut down. His crime in the whole Combat-18 matter was that he allowed the group to be founded amongst those who frequented the place. As such, he was aiding and abetting the matter, his blame is his "stupidity" in the whole matter, as he did not have under control what was happening in his club.

    The 20-year-old wasn't guilty of anything much. I've somewhat known him for years, and he is by far the most intelligent of the three. His is well-versed and well-read on a variety of matters, it is not fair to lump him in with the others actually. Normally, he wouldn't have been charged in court, if it hadn't been for the 22-year-old pulling him into the whole matter. His "crime" in the whole thing was to drop off and pick up people from the place with his car. Essentially he was with the wrong people at the wrong time, we all make that mistake at some time in our youth. For him it ended in a court trial. He is a little cleverer now and has made his experience with the skinhead types and chooses to associate with others now.

    The 22-year-old is the one who is the issue. He was the one instrumental in advising that activities that were grounded should be towards the Combat 18 concept. He was the one with the idea to flog the shirts. And most importantly, he was the one who got afraid of the executive, and told them absolutely everything, pulling people into the matter as well instead of being a man and taking his blame but not shifting some of it on others. The advocate in the case noted that his testimony in court and in investigation differed as well.

    The 22-year-old telling people off for supposed lawnessness almost pulled even more people into the matter, this could eventually be avoided. Strangely enough, he still has a big-enough following, especially from the useless "skinhead types" as he builds his existence and position on lies. One of those was claiming that it was the 20-year-old who'd had the loose mouth and told off on all of them. When he discovered that blatant lie last year in summer, I recall having to spend hours of having to talk to him to calm him.

    This betrayal by the 22-year-old weighs even heavier at this stage, as the 20-year-old - who would without the 22-year-old's words never have been charged (picking people up, he was fairly unimportant in the big scheme of things) - is expecting (well that is, his girlfriend) a child later this year - potentially a guiding reason why the court chose to deal him a hefty fine instead.

    But strangely enough it was not about the club. It was about the shirts and the CDs, and the loose C18 association. They were supposedly flogging shirts with "Nazi type messages" on them, and even worse they were listening to Lunikoff, Stahlgewitter, Sleipnir and the likes ... and distributed them to their immediate associates (but never outside the club), at least from what I gather.

    This, so I am told, was also the humorous part of the trial. They played RAC songs in court, six or seven of them, I understand those charged had to hold back laughter. When the judge asked whether this should be allowed in a public trial, the head of the jury said that he'd not heard such songs yet and that he'd like to hear them to make his judgment.

    The words "C18" and "B&H" were apparently uttered over a thousand times in that court proceeding, dubious and incorrect evidence was brought in to support this, obviously to persuade the jury. For other than that, their presentation in court was expemlary. But here comes the huge catch:

    There was only a C18-association. But there was no founding of a C18 chapter --- the guys were charged with §3g ("Other NS-connected activities"), had they actually founded the club officially it would have been §3a ("founding NS-orientated organisations"), a much heavier offence.

    Essentially: What was left in the end, was that they were damned for the "evil" activities of distributing shirts and CDs. As the club --- which everyone would have to agree, did not go as it should have --- was never an issue in the actual trial, except for providing "a safe haven for those wishing to engage in §3g behaviour".

    That the media attempted to weight it all even more into the Skinhead corner than the 22-year-old had guided it already, should be obvious to the dead eye. And that they try to cloak that the trial itself was a political chicane, as it wasn't about the demoralised beahaviour going on in the club but about the oh-so-evil distribution of shirts and CDs.

    And as such, even with all the idiocy going on in the club, and with all the skinhead activities going on --- in terms of the trial, they shouldn't be condemned for that one. As the point this trial makes is an easy one: If they want to convict you, they will - because §3g is a classic "rubber paragraph".
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    The whole of the West is rapidly coming under the cloud of an Orwellian soviet type system. They are using the exact same tactics that were used during the inquisition to destroy all dissent from their anti-ethnic European agenda. Interestingly, this is somewhat universal in European and North American Countries.. but of course there is no international jewish conspiracy. Anyone who would think that is a lunatic, right? /sarcasm

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