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    In a Conflict Between Jews and Negros, Which Side Would You Be On?

    When non-jewish whites are involved I guess we are on the side of or own race, but besides that?

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    Letter from an Israeli Jail
    By Cynthia McKinney

    This is Cynthia McKinney and I'm speaking from an Israeli prison
    cellblock in Ramle. [I am one of] the Free Gaza 21, human rights
    activists currently imprisoned for trying to take medical supplies to
    Gaza, building supplies - and even crayons for children, I had a
    suitcase full of crayons for children. While we were on our way to
    Gaza the Israelis threatened to fire on our boat, but we did not turn
    around. The Israelis high-jacked and arrested us because we wanted to
    give crayons to the children in Gaza. We have been detained, and we
    want the people of the world to see how we have been treated just
    because we wanted to deliver humanitarian assistance to the people of
    Gaza.

    At the outbreak of Israel's Operation `Cast Lead' [in December 2008],
    I boarded a Free Gaza boat with one day's notice and tried, as the US
    representative in a multi-national delegation, to deliver 3 tons of
    medical supplies to an already besieged and ravaged Gaza.

    During Operation Cast Lead, U.S.-supplied F-16's rained hellfire on a
    trapped people. Ethnic cleansing became full scale outright genocide.
    U.S.-supplied white phosphorus, depleted uranium, robotic technology,
    DIME weapons, and cluster bombs - new weapons creating injuries never
    treated before by Jordanian and Norwegian doctors. I was later told
    by doctors who were there in Gaza during Israel's onslaught that Gaza
    had become Israel's veritable weapons testing laboratory, people used
    to test and improve the kill ratio of their weapons.

    The world saw Israel's despicable violence thanks to al-Jazeera
    Arabic and Press TV that broadcast in English. I saw those broadcasts
    live and around the clock, not from the USA but from Lebanon, where
    my first attempt to get into Gaza had ended because the Israeli
    military rammed the boat I was on in international water ... It's a
    miracle that I'm even here to write about my second encounter with
    the Israeli military, again a humanitarian mission aborted by the
    Israeli military.

    The Israeli authorities have tried to get us to confess that we
    committed a crime ... I am now known as Israeli prisoner number
    88794. How can I be in prison for collecting crayons to kids?

    Zionism has surely run out of its last legitimacy if this is what it
    does to people who believe so deeply in human rights for all that
    they put their own lives on the line for someone else's children.
    Israel is the fullest expression of Zionism, but if Israel fears for
    its security because Gaza's children have crayons then not only has
    Israel lost its last shred of legitimacy, but Israel must be declared
    a failed state.

    I am facing deportation from the state that brought me here at
    gunpoint after commandeering our boat. I was brought to Israel
    against my will. I am being held in this prison because I had a dream
    that Gaza's children could color & paint, that Gaza's wounded could
    be healed, and that Gaza's bombed-out houses could be rebuilt.

    But I've learned an interesting thing by being inside this prison.
    First of all, it's incredibly black: populated mostly by Ethiopians
    who also had a dream ... like my cellmates, one who is pregnant. They
    are all are in their twenties. They thought they were coming to the
    Holy Land. They had a dream that their lives would be better ... The
    once proud, never colonized Ethiopia [has been thrown into] the back
    pocket of the United States, and become a place of torture,
    rendition, and occupation. Ethiopians must free their country because
    superpower politics [have] become more important than human rights
    and self-determination.

    My cellmates came to the Holy Land so they could be free from the
    exigencies of superpower politics. They committed no crime except to
    have a dream. They came to Israel because they thought that Israel
    held promise for them. Their journey to Israel through Sudan and
    Egypt was arduous. I can only imagine what it must have been like for
    them. And it wasn't cheap. Many of them represent their family's best
    collective efforts for self-fulfilment. They made their way to the
    United Nations High Commission for Refugees. They got their yellow
    paper of identification. They got their certificate for police
    protection. They are refugees from tragedy, and they made it to
    Israel only after they arrived Israel told them "there is no UN in
    Israel."

    The police here have license to pick them up & suck them into the
    black hole of a farce for a justice system. These beautiful,
    industrious and proud women represent the hopes of entire families.
    The idea of Israel tricked them and the rest of us. In a widely
    propagandized slick marketing campaign, Israel represented itself as
    a place of refuge and safety for the world's first Jews and
    Christian. I too believed that marketing and failed to look deeper.

    The truth is that Israel lied to the world. Israel lied to the
    families of these young women. Israel lied to the women themselves
    who are now trapped in Ramle's detention facility. And what are we to
    do? One of my cellmates cried today. She has been here for 6 months.
    As an American, crying with them is not enough. The policy of the
    United States must be better, and while we watch President Obama give
    12.8 trillion dollars to the financial elite of the United States it
    ought now be clear that hope, change, and `yes we can' were
    powerfully presented images of dignity and self-fulfilment,
    individually and nationally, that besieged people everywhere truly
    believed in.

    It was a slick marketing campaign as slickly put to the world and to
    the voters of America as was Israel's marketing to the world. It
    tricked all of us but, more tragically, these young women.

    We must cast an informed vote about better candidates seeking to
    represent us. I have read and re-read Dr. Martin Luther King Junior's
    letter from a Birmingham jail. Never in my wildest dreams would I
    have ever imagined that I too would one day have to do so. It is
    clear that taxpayers in Europe and the U.S. have a lot to atone for,
    for what they've done to others around the world.

    What an irony! My son begins his law school program without me
    because I am in prison, in my own way trying to do my best, again,
    for other people's children. Forgive me, my son. I guess I'm
    experiencing the harsh reality which is why people need dreams. [But]
    I'm lucky. I will leave this place. Has Israel become the place where
    dreams die?

    Ask the people of Palestine. Ask the stream of black and Asian men
    whom I see being processed at Ramle. Ask the women on my cellblock.
    [Ask yourself:] what are you willing to do?

    Let's change the world together & reclaim what we all need as human
    beings: Dignity. I appeal to the United Nations to get these women of
    Ramle, who have done nothing wrong other than to believe in Israel as
    the guardian of the Holy Land, resettled in safe homes. I appeal to
    the United State's Department of State to include the plight of
    detained UNHCR-certified refugees in the Israel country report in its
    annual human rights report. I appeal once again to President Obama to
    go to Gaza: send your special envoy, George Mitchell there, and to
    engage Hamas as the elected choice of the Palestinian people.

    I dedicate this message to those who struggle to achieve a free
    Palestine, and to the women I've met at Ramle. This is Cynthia
    McKinney, July 2nd 2009, also known as Ramle prisoner number 88794.

    ---
    Cynthia McKinney is a former U.S. Congresswoman, Green Party
    presidential candidate, and an outspoken advocate for human rights
    and social justice. The first African-American woman to represent the
    state of Georgia, McKinney served six terms in the U.S. House of
    Representatives, from 1993-2003, and from 2005-2007. She was arrested
    and forcibly abducted to Israel while attempting to take humanitarian
    and reconstruction supplies to Gaza on June 30th. For more
    information, please see
    <http://www.freegaza.org/>http://www.FreeGaza.org

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisjqb View Post
    When non-jewish whites are involved I guess we are on the side of or own race, but besides that?
    The side that benefits us, of course. By that I also include studying how changes in the balance of powers would affect us. We do not want to see anyone else reach a hegemonical position if we can prevent it.

    Otherwise I am strong beliver in the 'a pox on both your houses' doctrine.

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    I'm getting tired of this which is your favorite non-white race thing. I wouldn't be on anyone's side, because both are alien groups. It's a no win situation no matter how you put it. If Jews win, they continue to exert their indoctrinating anti-Germanic influence. If Negroes win, they continue to leech off and race mix. Both need to be removed from our countries, simple as that.

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    In dubio pro Judaeo

    Depends on the nature of the conflict and how its outcome would most probably affect the destiny of my own people.

    However, in dubio pro Judaeo: The Jews produced by far more values of culture than the blacks, the main achievments of the latter consisting in Jazz and Hip Hop, styles of "music" of a very dubious value to say the least.

    Last but not least: Jesus Christ himself - at least his flesh - was Jewish, and what Christianism did for civilisation is well known.

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    In a conflict between Jews and Negroes, I take the side which stands by and smiles at two of our folk's enemies tearing each other apart, and take the Norman lesson - if two of my foes weaken each other, then my chances for victory are increased tenfold.

    (By the way also the tactic both Jews and Muslims are trying to employ to pit us up against the other to make it easier for them. )

    If I commanded all Germanics and saw how two of my folk's enemies tore each other apart without detriment to my own folk, and would then let the world know why "the late Sigurd" was referred to as such (i.e. waiting till the battle was over to crush both) whilst I bemusedly watch and wait.

    The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend - and conversely, this means that if two enemies who are not my friend conflict with each other, that this may essentially help me, and will help me more so if I am already in a strong position but do not pick any sides but my own.

    Jews and Negroes, or Jews and Muslims, or non-Muslim Negroes and Muslim Negroes picking a fight with each other thus bothers me no more than two Morrocans kniving each other in some back alley. If they wish to make it all so easy by taking each other out, all the better for us in the big picture and the long run.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HamilkarBarkas View Post
    Last but not least: Jesus Christ himself - at least his flesh - was Jewish, and what Christianism did for civilisation is well known.
    No, the Mesopotamians and the Greeks would never have made it without Jesus.

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