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    Ecclestone: Hitler 'Got Things Done'

    Formula 1 boss Bernie Ecclestone praised Hitler and shared his preference for totalitarian regimes over democracies yesterday to the Times.

    Let me attempt to give Bernie Ecclestone the benefit of the doubt. I assume his intention was to say that a strong leader, irrespective of the ideology or system, is what he admires.

    That hasn’t stopped the outrage from boiling over after Ecclestone shared some candid and controversial thoughts with the Times yesterday. Odd he should choose Hitler as an example of a strong leader and object of admiration.

    “In a lot of ways, terrible to say this I suppose, but apart from the fact that Hitler got taken away and persuaded to do things that I have no idea whether he wanted to do or not, he was in the way that he could command a lot of people, able to get things done," Ecclestone said in his controversial statement. “In the end he got lost, so he wasn’t a very good dictator because either he had all these things and knew what was going on and insisted, or he just went along with it . . . so either way he wasn’t a dictator.”

    He also rounded on democracy, claiming that “it hasn’t done a lot of good for many countries—including this one [Britain].”

    I am unclear of what history classes Mr. Ecclestone missed in primary school but Hitler didn’t have to be persuaded to do the things he did. Have the British and American people forgotten the sacrifice paid to rid the world of a tyrannical dictator who was the definitional and tangible example of genocide? The responses of Ecclestone’s comments would suggest they haven’t.

    A spokesman for the Board of Deputies of British Jews said, “Mr Ecclestone’s comments regarding Hitler, female, black and Jewish racing drivers, and dictatorships are quite bizarre. He says [in the interview], ‘Politics is not for me,’ and we are inclined to agree.”

    Stephen Pollard, Editor of the Jewish Chronicle, said, “Mr Ecclestone is either an idiot or morally repulsive. Either he has no idea how stupid and offensive his views are or he does and deserves to be held in contempt by all decent people.”

    John Whittingdale, the Tory chairman of the Culture, Media and Sport Select Committee, said, “These are extraordinary views and I’m appalled that anybody could hold them.”

    Ecclestone’s friend, and son of British Union of Fascists leader, Max Mosley has been involved in a war of words with the Formula 1 teams and was recently accused of being a “dictator.”

    The label has reignited and reinvigorated Mosley as he was set to step down from his post as president of the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA) this coming October. It now appears he may be considering another term and this has many Formula 1 fans, teams, and sponsors on edge.
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    Ecclestone is quite possibly Jewish himself although there appears to be some disagreement over the matter.

    What Bernie said makes sense. He wasn't praising Hitler as the hysterical Ziomedia article claims, he merely stated what should be obvious to anybody with reasoning powers who has not been turned into a zombie goyim.


    - Obviously dictatorships / totalitarian regimes can arrive at decisions and take action without being impeded by drawn out negotiations, arguments and hold-ups such as is the case with a "democratic" model. Whether a dictator or junta will necessarily make better, "more humane" or more efficient decisions is another matter but they certainly don't need to waste time on having them implemented.

    - As Bernie himself stated, Hitler himself ended up losing his way a bit which meant that he wasn't necessarily the best example of what a model dictator ought to be.


    As for the "democracy hasn't done a lot of good for many countries" claim, Ecclestone again has a point. Democracy may be the system of choice in a number of countries with a fairly OK standard of living and stable social conditions but does that necessarily make it the "best" system?

    In its current guise democracy has serious problems, not least being the fact that it doesn't work well in countries with multi-ethnic populations, countries with illiterate and uninformed populations and countries where the wealthy can buy it up through their control of parliaments, elected politicians, banks, industry and the media. Unfortunately these problems apply to nearly all countries. Are countries who spy on their own citizens, who place restrictions on where they may or may not travel, who subject its citizens to "affirmative action", who routinely uses its police to beat up citizens really free and "democratic"?

    The Zionist mafia and their bought politicians have a vested interest in maintaining the current status quo so it's no surprise that they are upset enough to cry in their media about Ecclestone's comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBatty View Post
    Ecclestone is quite possibly Jewish himself although there appears to be some disagreement over the matter.
    I believe the claim of Ecclestone to be Jewish one of those overhyped Stormfront theories, which has little footing in reality. People get cautious because the German ending -stein is commonly found with Jewish surnames, and that would translate into -stone.

    But here remember, that "locational surnaming" in the Anglosphere is less characteristically connected with any ending. Summerfield would be a perfectly English name, whilst Sommerfeldt would have people's radars high in Germany. Same goes for Belmont, Schönberg would have people puzzled.

    Most names in English which end on -stone or -field in German equivalent would be having the characteristic -er ending, -felder (f.ex. Austrian skiier Rainer Schönfelder) or -steiner (f.ex. Marksteiner, a common Austrian name) or -berger (f.ex. Barbara Schöneberger, German mediaperson).

    Very few in the English-speaking world with a -stone ending have Jewish roots. Hel, half of Scotland's inhabitants with the surname Johnstone would be jumping in fear if -stone was considered a Jewish surname, whilst they'd well be able to prove lineage free of Jewish influence.

    Other than that --- let's see. FIA president Max Mosley is the son of Sir Oswald Mosley and was involved in a "Nazi sex scandal". Bernie Ecclestone thinks Hitler was a potent statesman. Perhaps there's still hope for Formula One?
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
    -Die alte Seele trauernd und verlassen / Verblassend in einer erklärbaren Welt / Schwebend in einem Dunst der Wehmut / Ein Schrei der nur unmerklich gellt-
    -Auch ich verspüre Demut / Vor dem alten Geiste der Ahnen / Wird es mir vergönnt sein / Gen Walhalla aufzufahren?-

    (Heimdalls Wacht, In kalte Schatten versunken, stanzas 4-6)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Other than that --- let's see. FIA president Max Mosley is the son of Sir Oswald Mosley and was involved in a "Nazi sex scandal". Bernie Ecclestone thinks Hitler was a potent statesman. Perhaps there's still hope for Formula One?
    Well, after all it is the master racing sport?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBatty View Post

    What Bernie said makes sense. He wasn't praising Hitler as the hysterical Ziomedia article claims, he merely stated what should be obvious to anybody with reasoning powers who has not been turned into a zombie goyim.
    unfortunately, that's not many people, just look at the 'comments' on the original article and out of the many you could count on one hand the number who meet your criterea above.

    It's not just sheeple who act like this, for eg. the Conservatives were being advised to pull out of the 'right wing' coalition in the EU by some tv political pundit because it has 'nasty gypsy haters' and someone who 'praised Hitler' in it, IIRC the guy said something like Hitler did a good job on the economy//building autobahns//had a good conception of citizenship/unity for the country or somesuch, but of course, any praise is equal wanting to commit brutal genocide and war, of course. It's a big problem for Nationalists since whether you like or hate Hitler, the NSDAP promoted most of the good ideas any nationalist would have and made excellent use of them/symbols etc, so it's impossible to completely disassociate from them and the sheeple herders have an easy tool to control the sheeple with.

    As for the "democracy hasn't done a lot of good for many countries" claim, Ecclestone again has a point. Democracy may be the system of choice in a number of countries with a fairly OK standard of living and stable social conditions but does that necessarily make it the "best" system?
    I think his criticism is completely valid, these days it's trendy to promote the idea of 'being british' as being democratic and tolerant (so they can include all comers in a multi-culti society of course), but I guess Britain didn't exist before the 1970's or something in that case the more Democratic the country has become and the wider the franchise to vote, the less powerful it has also become. Most of it's glory was under a Monarchy. In less than 100 years the Democracy has seeded problems (the worst being mass immigration, huge debt, sold off industry etc). that might well mean an end to 'the people' and are very hard to solve (for instance, the huge debt caused by 'social works/public pensions' etc, to win votes, and try standing for election to remove those things! noone will vote for you. That's the danger of popular democracy).

    Ecclestone is a Labour party supporer btw.

    I wonder how Max Mosley feels, having struggled all his life as 'son of Oswald', ruling out a political career, having had a 'nazi sex orgy' scandal and now Bernie has made a pro-dictator speech and said Max would make a great prime-minister in it I dunno, but I think Max's father would have been the best leader Britain could have had in the 20th. C (and his policies would have prevented all the problems I mentioned above from occurring, too). But, the 'Ziomedia' as you call it named him the 'worst Brition of the 20th C'. instead and have the people regard him as a 'traitor' to boot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renwein View Post
    unfortunately, that's not many people, just look at the 'comments' on the original article and out of the many you could count on one hand the number who meet your criterea above.
    The difference between The Sun and The Times is almost none.

    It's not just sheeple who act like this, for eg. the Conservatives were being advised to pull out of the 'right wing' coalition in the EU by some tv political pundit because it has 'nasty gypsy haters' and someone who 'praised Hitler' in it, IIRC the guy said something like Hitler did a good job on the economy//building autobahns//had a good conception of citizenship/unity for the country or somesuch, but of course, any praise is equal wanting to commit brutal genocide and war, of course.
    Unfortunately all the major parties including the Conservatives are bought and paid for. From the smaller parties I'll add the UKIP to that list as well. Imo this EU "rightwing coalition" is a smokescreen. The Eastern European members may be slightly more honest about their intentions but the Conservative Party's role in it is more likely to confuse and misguide the others so that they don't deviate too far from the NWO's agenda.

    The Conservatives had years worth of opportunities to get us the hell out of the EU before Labour got into power. They never took them. They talk the talk but they never walk the walk.


    I think his criticism is completely valid, these days it's trendy to promote the idea of 'being british' as being democratic and tolerant (so they can include all comers in a multi-culti society of course), but I guess Britain didn't exist before the 1970's or something in that case the more Democratic the country has become and the wider the franchise to vote, the less powerful it has also become.
    Imo the people who really control things here (bankers, corporations and so forth) are as powerful as ever. The real loss of power has been to the middle classes who are becomingly increasingly disenfranchised and pressurised financially and socially.

    Most of it's glory was under a Monarchy. In less than 100 years the Democracy has seeded problems (the worst being mass immigration, huge debt, sold off industry etc). that might well mean an end to 'the people' and are very hard to solve (for instance, the huge debt caused by 'social works/public pensions' etc, to win votes, and try standing for election to remove those things! noone will vote for you. That's the danger of popular democracy).
    I agree with the damage done by the globalists. Unfortunately I see the current monarchy as part of this group.

    Ecclestone is a Labour party supporer btw.
    Indeed he is or was. Not sure what his current stance is given his well publicised dislike of democracy. (The past support for Labour was more likely in order to facilitate business)


    I wonder how Max Mosley feels, having struggled all his life as 'son of Oswald', ruling out a political career, having had a 'nazi sex orgy' scandal and now Bernie has made a pro-dictator speech and said Max would make a great prime-minister in it I dunno, but I think Max's father would have been the best leader Britain could have had in the 20th. C (and his policies would have prevented all the problems I mentioned above from occurring, too). But, the 'Ziomedia' as you call it named him the 'worst Brition of the 20th C'. instead and have the people regard him as a 'traitor' to boot
    The NWO cabal are experts at reversing the truth. Black becomes white, patriots and nationalists become traitors, globalisation becomes the new great hope, we are "hated for our freedoms and democracy by terrorists" etc.

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    Formula One Racing Chief Praises Hitler, Saddam Hussein

    Source: The Times (UK) (7-5-09)
    Bernie Ecclestone, the man who controls Formula One auto racing, said Friday that he preferred totalitarian regimes to democracies and praised Adolf Hitler for his ability to "get things done."

    In an outspoken interview with The Times of London, the 78-year-old British billionaire chastised contemporary politicians for their weaknesses and extolled the virtues of strong leadership.

    Instead, Ecclestone endorsed the concept of a government based on tyranny.

    Last year, Mosley won a libel suit against the London tabloid News of the World after it published photos of what it said was a "Nazi sex orgy" involving him and five prostitutes.


    More...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyBatty View Post
    The difference between The Sun and The Times is almost none.
    Well if the Wheel of the Sun is also the Wheel of Time... go figure.

    Unfortunately all the major parties including the Conservatives are bought and paid for. From the smaller parties I'll add the UKIP to that list as well.
    UKIP is essentially just a eurosceptic extension of the Conservative Party. It allows them to have both Europhiles and Eurosceptics in the party without them tearing each other apart internally.

    Internal squabbles would show to the general public that these two streaks of opinion which were detrimental to their performance in the late 90s and early years of this decades have not resolved their squabbles at all, it's essentially a publicity stunt by which they can outmaneouvre both Labour and the BNP (their two fiercest enemies, for entirely different reasons though of course).

    "Rebels" who go against that which is planned on a grand scale in Brussels whilst still being in there on a Tory ticket are, of course, then often excluded from the EPP fraction. See Daniel Hannan for reference's sake.

    The Conservatives had years worth of opportunities to get us the hell out of the EU before Labour got into power. They never took them. They talk the talk but they never walk the walk.
    The floodgates which allowed for extra-European immigration to take overhand were even opened during Tory rule 1979-1997. Not to mention that Thatcherism destroyed the traditional way Britain functioned in favour of a neo-liberalist consumer culture.

    The "Iron Lady" and her followers certainly had their merits, but they still ran the country into ruin, second in extent only to the current 12 years of Labour.

    I agree with the damage done by the globalists. Unfortunately I see the current monarchy as part of this group.
    The royal family is essentially without any powers. I am almost certain that substantial portions of the royal family aren't 100% happy with the way things are going, but they know they'd be dealt away in a whim if they dared to complain about it.

    Theoretically, the monarch also still has many powers. Practically, however, almost all of her administrative roles are governed by constitutional conventions. Otherwise it perhaps wouldn't be 301 years already (Scottish Militia Bill 1708) since a monarch last refused royal assent to a Bill/Act of Parliament.

    Blaming the Queen or indeed the entire royal family for the waning glory of Britain is not fair, as they are essentially without the power to stop it. In this day and age, the monarchy is merely symbolic but not practical.
    -In kalte Schatten versunken... /Germaniens Volk erstarrt / Gefroren von Lügen / In denen die Welt verharrt-
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Well if the Wheel of the Sun is also the Wheel of Time... go figure.
    Nice one

    UKIP is essentially just a eurosceptic extension of the Conservative Party. It allows them to have both Europhiles and Eurosceptics in the party without them tearing each other apart internally.

    Internal squabbles would show to the general public that these two streaks of opinion which were detrimental to their performance in the late 90s and early years of this decades have not resolved their squabbles at all, it's essentially a publicity stunt by which they can outmaneouvre both Labour and the BNP (their two fiercest enemies, for entirely different reasons though of course).
    I agree that the UKIP / Conservatives are complimentary. I don't agree that Labour is the "enemy" of either. I see them and Labour as being part of the same cabal. Different window dressing, same clothes. As for the BNP, they *seem* to not be under NWO control but who really knows.... the jury (for me) is still out on them.

    "Rebels" who go against that which is planned on a grand scale in Brussels whilst still being in there on a Tory ticket are, of course, then often excluded from the EPP fraction. See Daniel Hannan for reference's sake.
    Sure, the whole system is rigged.

    The floodgates which allowed for extra-European immigration to take overhand were even opened during Tory rule 1979-1997. Not to mention that Thatcherism destroyed the traditional way Britain functioned in favour of a neo-liberalist consumer culture.
    Yes

    The royal family is essentially without any powers. I am almost certain that substantial portions of the royal family aren't 100% happy with the way things are going, but they know they'd be dealt away in a whim if they dared to complain about it.
    Here I disagree. Officially they have "ceremonial powers only" but behind the throne I do believe that they wield enormous power and influence both in the UK and abroad. Of course I couldn't prove this but then again, much of what we choose to believe and hypothesize about cannot be proven either.

    Blaming the Queen or indeed the entire royal family for the waning glory of Britain is not fair, as they are essentially without the power to stop it. In this day and age, the monarchy is merely symbolic but not practical.
    I don't blame them exclusively but I cannot help but have my suspicions about them and their role in the greater scheme of the things most of us are opposed to. However, as I said, it's not a topic I can debate at length because I don't have sufficient information to do so.

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    To be honest I don't care if he's a Jew. Wait, actually if he is a Jew that says something positive about Hitler, that's something.

    The important thing is, a VIP says something positive about Hitler.

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