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    Soviet Union 'As Guilty As the Nazis for World War II'

    The Soviet Union under Stalin was as guilty as Nazi Germany for the Second World War, the world’s largest security organisation has declared.

    The verdict in a resolution issued by the Organisation for Security and Co-operation in Europe has incensed Russia which lost 26million people in the war.

    The organisation based its conclusion on the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact of 1939 which it said was the precursor to the conflagration.

    The pact, named after the Soviet and Nazi foreign ministers of the time, carved up Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe between Moscow and Berlin.

    This made the Soviets equally responsible for the ensuing catastrophe which claimed 50million lives, according to the OSCE.

    It said both Stalinism and Nazism ‘brought about crimes against humanity and genocide’ and called for August 23 to be a day of remembrance for the victims.

    It was on August 23, 1939, that the two diametrically-opposed regimes signed their infamous pact. After Hitler invaded Poland on September 1 the Soviets moved in from the east, seizing great tracts of territory agreed upon in a secret clause.

    Poland was crushed between the vice of Moscow and Berlin. More than three million people perished in Nazi-occupied Poland and an estimated 500,000 in the Sovietoccupied part.

    The OSCE has 56 member countries, including the UK. It was created in 1972 during the Cold War with the aim of preventing conflict in Europe, Asia and the Caucasus.

    When the resolution on Soviet involvement in the Second World War was passed at its annual assembly held this year in Vilnius, Lithuania, Russia’s delegates walked out.

    Russia has accused many Western countries of understating the sacrifices made by the Soviet Union in defeating Nazi Germany.

    Hitler attacked the Soviet Union on June 22, 1941, tearing up existing treaties, in an attempt to conquer Communism.

    He told his generals to conduct a ‘war without rules’ in which all cruelties were legitimate.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...ld-War-II.html

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    I don't really understand exactly what the agenda is of countries and organisations who keep on living in the past and continuously revise history. The causes of wars are complex and involves many players.

    It seems that certain powers (in this case through their proxies who submitted the motion) conveniently attempt to blame "the usual suspects" yet unsurprisingly downplay their own roles.

    The Bolsheviks who enslaved Russia and the Soviet Union in 1917 didn't fall from the sky. They were funded and abetted by powerful individuals and governments in countries like Germany and Great Britain. Other self-styled bastions of "freedom and democracy" did as much greedy business with all sides concerned as possible both before and during the war.

    Wars are usually slaughter for profit and power organised by those who control industries, banks and trade. Everybody is guilty. There are no "good guys". Singling out certain nations is pure hypocrisy.

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    That's true indeed, however we've learnt differently. The Soviets were praised as liberators and glorious heroes, so now this kind of news is positivity from my point of view, because it shakes this theory.

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    The Versailles treaty, and therefore France etc., can be called the origins and given the culpability of/to WWII. As well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagelfar View Post
    The Versailles treaty, and therefore France etc., can be called the origins and given the culpability of/to WWII. As well.
    Indeed, in my opinion this was one of the most important causes because this created conditions for resentment and revenge.

    Quote Originally Posted by Siebenbürgerin
    That's true indeed, however we've learnt differently. The Soviets were praised as liberators and glorious heroes, so now this kind of news is positivity from my point of view, because it shakes this theory.
    Indeed. It just goes to show how much official "history" is pure fantasy. As the saying goes, history is written by the victors. However, to make things fair and to keep a reasonable perspective the Western Allies warcrimes and roles in WW2 also need to be exposed. Placing all the blame on Germany and the Soviet Union is an utter fabrication and revision of the true causes of the war.


    War is a racket - Smedley Butler

    WAR is a racket. It always has been.

    It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

    A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.

    In the World War [I] a mere handful garnered the profits of the conflict. At least 21,000 new millionaires and billionaires were made in the United States during the World War. That many admitted their huge blood gains in their income tax returns. How many other war millionaires falsified their tax returns no one knows.

    How many of these war millionaires shouldered a rifle? How many of them dug a trench? How many of them knew what it meant to go hungry in a rat-infested dug-out? How many of them spent sleepless, frightened nights, ducking shells and shrapnel and machine gun bullets? How many of them parried a bayonet thrust of an enemy? How many of them were wounded or killed in battle?

    Out of war nations acquire additional territory, if they are victorious. They just take it. This newly acquired territory promptly is exploited by the few – the selfsame few who wrung dollars out of blood in the war. The general public shoulders the bill.

    ................................

    http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/ar...risaracket.htm

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