Nice Baltid type from Russia

[Evolved]

Andrey

Height: 182
Measurements: 100-80-90
Weight: 85
Shoe size: 42

Personal Info

Year of birth: 1980
Color of hair: blond
Color of eyes: Blue
Length of hair: Short
Color of skin: White
Type of the person: European
International passport: Present
Language: English (well)

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[rusalka]

What is this, mail order bridegrooms?

[Agrippa]

You dont think he has direct Nordid admixture? I think his face is already too narrow and fine featured for typical Baltids/Osteuropids...
No doubt he is predominantely (West-) Baltid, but still...

[norda]

WEll maybe he is Baltid but not the East Baltic type rather good example of Slavic Arya type.

[Kel`Thuz]

Now, I have read one article recently, which claimed that such classic Baltid types formed the bulk of the original Proto-Indo-European population, and this type was present through all the Aryan conquests, being a mesocephalic with CI of circa 77-78, straight or slightly concave nose, with moderately wide and short face.

[norda]

With all respect lg, the only Uralic thing in him is that this type crossed Ural heading India

[Agrippa]

Now, I have read one article recently, which claimed that such classic Baltid types formed the bulk of the original Proto-Indo-European population, and this type was present through all the Aryan conquests, being a mesocephalic with CI of circa 77-78, straight or slightly concave nose, with moderately wide and short face.

Can you post a link to this article or the post the whole article here?
Or is it in another language than English or German?

My personal opinion is that the IE were probably mixed from the beginning, but to say that most of them were Baltid/Osteuropid sounds strange because such types were not present in most early IE areas afaik, especially not in the Kentum regions.

[Evolved]

His forehead, nose and eyes makes me see him as a ("West") Baltid, but not a Ladogan.

[norda]

Can you post a link to this article or the post the whole article here?
Or is it in another language than English or German?

My personal opinion is that the IE were probably mixed from the beginning, but to say that most of them were Baltid/Osteuropid sounds strange because such types were not present in most early IE areas afaik, especially not in the Kentum regions.

Well from gentical point of view just Kentums are great mix of types.
Aryan anthropology was discussed here
http://www.forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=6590
Agrippa, are you sure you know exactly what does “Osteruropid” mean. Are there 400 mln Slavs, Balts, Finougres etc.. of the same phenotype while in Luxemburg one can separate at least 10 types.
I think you still base on geography or politics rather then phenotype. Btw have you ever been to Russia?

[Kel`Thuz]

Can you post a link to this article or the post the whole article here?
Or is it in another language than English or German?

My personal opinion is that the IE were probably mixed from the beginning, but to say that most of them were Baltid/Osteuropid sounds strange because such types were not present in most early IE areas afaik, especially not in the Kentum regions.

This article appeared in a Polish neo-heathen magazine Zerca , and is too long for me to translate in whole. But from what I can discern, its conclusions are based on documented anthropological finds of early Indo-European grave sites of neolithic, bronze and early Iron Age, where the mean CI was at 77.8 . The skulls of early medieval Slavs also have the same mean CI and are dominated by the mesocephalic ones. This is documented by Czekanowski in his book, so I can assure the crediblity of the source data in that article. Also I want to make clear, that we are not talking about your 'Osteuropid' which is a brachycephalic East-Baltic/Neo-Danubian, but of the classic Baltid (so-called Intermarine type), which in fact could be described as a robust Nordic. This type is now re-emerging among the Polish Slavs, as I can see many young adults who show its typical characteristics.
This article also covers the mental characteristics of this original IE Baltid race. These are: high constitution for environmental hardships, high stamina, great warrior spirit, courage, competetiveness, individualism, strong family bonds, industry, perseverance, strong feeling of honour and dignity, skills in a variety of fields from humanistic to mathematical sciences and art, fairness and hospitality. Negative traits: envy, rapacity, impulsiveness, vehemence, conceit. Well, sounds like a typical Pole , although we have the negative traits augmented by the sick socio-religious catholic system. The original Baltid Aryans had much more opportunities to show their positive warrior traits. Of course I do not say that IE people were all Baltid by race, but that the original Baltid race comprised most of them. I still hold to my thesis that the IE steppe horsemen were more gracile and Pontid racially. By fusing the Pontid and Baltid elements, there appeared a few distinct types which characterize Slavs to this day, among them Corded Nords, Danubian Nords, and also some more Dinaric-like (brachycephalized Pontids ?). The East-Baltics & co. are a product of mingling with Finno-Ugrians (Lapponoid) from NE forests. Also intrusion of alien western (mostly German) elements - Alpine, Mediterranean - had a significant impact. The pre-Slavic rural population also cannot be forgotten, but I don't know well what kind of racial impact it had. What I can observe in the backward rural areas of my region, is the predomination of brown eyes and peculiar 'primitive' facial features which make most of the population there similar to each other. Perhaps they are some remnants of the autochtones, inbred to such a disgusting extent.
Anyway, the original Aryan Baltid type is beginning to predominate again in the civilised regions of Poland, and that's good I guess...
So I'll finish with a quote from the article:
The Slavs of the Intermarine race are thus the major heirs, representatives, and continuators of the ancient Aryan heritage