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    Is it Possible to Achieve an Utopian Society?

    I want to know if it's possible to achieve utopian society?

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    I'm voting no, because if it's achieved it isn't utopian anymore. Utopian means impractical, improbable, impossible to achieve, doesn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siebenbürgerin View Post
    I'm voting no, because if it's achieved it isn't utopian anymore. Utopian means impractical, improbable, impossible to achieve, doesn't it?
    Well it's how you look at it... suppose I could define it, then the answer would be yes, but also to achieve the utopian state is not that easy or simple neither straightforward. And of cause if you can't define the notion of ideal society so I guess it's a No.
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    Utopia is the dream of something highly unlikely and build on an almost endless list of fullfilled conditions.
    Unlikely, but not impossible

    When the picture should implicate that this utopian society is like that (paradise and even lions dont eat the tasty rabbits that are jumbing into their mouth and stuff), then a categorical no.

    But democracy once was considered utopian too (not that is would run very smoothly, nonetheless it is reality and there are still people believing in this utopia), so the question is quite unspecific, it would highly depend on the concrete look & feel of this utopian society (almost everything can be 'utopian' in the sense that it would reflect an ideal society, and Marx and Hitler surely had quite other ideas about how it would/should be).
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    Hmm, after repondering a little bit, I suppose the answer could also be "possible but without humans". Because humans aren't perfect, but there are higher beings that are perfect like divinities, and so they can achieve the utopian society, which is impossible for the humans. But that's a question of belief.

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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    But democracy once was considered utopian too (not that is would run very smoothly, nonetheless it is reality and there are still people believing in this utopia), so the question is quite unspecific, it would highly depend on the concrete look & feel of this utopian society (almost everything can be 'utopian' in the sense that it would reflect an ideal society, and Marx and Hitler surely had quite other ideas about how it would/should be).
    Isn't democracy still utopian today,
    at least in the absolute sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jael View Post
    Isn't democracy still utopian today,
    at least in the absolute sense?
    Maybe, because even in a democratic state there's an order and control. Since we could control our actions and thoughts its possible to achieve the utopian state. Well I guess it's how you look at it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jael
    Isn't democracy still utopian today,
    at least in the absolute sense?
    Hehe, well, yes, that's why I said people still 'believe' in it
    I guess reality has prooven that democracy depends on so many fullfilled conditions that it just doesnt work with humans. But in the end, that counts for every artificial created states system (which would be everything above/beyond the folkway I guess).
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    It would help if you would define what kind of utopian society you mean.
    General, I think it's highly unlikely, but not impossible.

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    If you mean utopia as an idyllic state, my opinion is yes, it's possible.
    Not in the sense of the Garden of Eden, but as a really good place to live.
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