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    Rehabilitation, Reintegration and Resocialization of Criminals

    Do you support rehabilitation of criminals and all that comes with it? If so for which crimes?

    I think some people are born criminals and therefore I don't support it for grave crimes. Some people just can't be reintegrated in society and it's nt worth experimenting with such concepts.

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    Ya. They can rehabilitate themselves in front of their gods at judgement day.



    No, the death penalty for the worst crimes, and other measures like exile or prison and such for others. But of course I'm not talking about what's considered a "crime" today like hate crimes and thought crimes.

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    I think it very much depends on the crime. If you stole something to feed your family you might fit in again, but if you are a rapist or murderer, I have my doubts.

    I can tell you that this topic was popular among Austrian politicians some decades ago, and they ended up burning their fingers, because they made a big mistake. There was a murderer, Jack Unterweger, who was released from prison and allowed in society despite having committed that murder and having some extra history of petty crimes. He became a very successful and admired person, and everyone was giving him as an example of the good results of the rehabilitation theory. But while this happened, he was killing again and again under the authorities' and politicians' nose. When they finally caught him, they discovered his crimes had been going on for a long time, and he even killed outside Austria. He went as far as the USA where he also killed.

    So, the only "rehabilitation" some criminals are interested in is repeat offending. They act nice in prison to be released and then, as soon as they're not under the magnifying glass anymore, they just get back to the previous behavior.
    THINK! It's not illegal yet.

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    Ideally, the justice system would be set up in a way which ensured that the outmost majority of all criminals ended up either dead by execution or behind bars for the rest of their lives sooner or later, preferably sooner. Their kind should be weeded out from the rest of the population, removed from society and prevented from engaging in criminal activites ever again.

    These people are quite simply a group of useless parasites who live off others and the government, they contribute nothing of value to society but instead detract from it. They lower the quality of life for decent folks and make them feel unsafe in their own neighborhoods. What more is there to say really. Even when imprisoned for their deeds they still cost us money, resources which we could have spent on other things, a final attestament to their parasitic nature and their uselessness as human beings.

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    No. The motive of the crime can tell you about the person's psychology. If someone kills or rapes for pleasure, he's sick in the head and shouldn't be allowed to continue his fetish. I have no sympathy for these kinds of criminals. The death penalty for them. There is no excuse to act like that, you can't justify killing or raping a random girl off the street.

    What annoys me the most is criminal immigrants. They should be deported immediately, not rehabilitated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sissi View Post
    I think it very much depends on the crime. If you stole something to feed your family you might fit in again, but if you are a rapist or murderer, I have my doubts.

    I can tell you that this topic was popular among Austrian politicians some decades ago, and they ended up burning their fingers, because they made a big mistake. There was a murderer, Jack Unterweger, who was released from prison and allowed in society despite having committed that murder and having some extra history of petty crimes. He became a very successful and admired person, and everyone was giving him as an example of the good results of the rehabilitation theory. But while this happened, he was killing again and again under the authorities' and politicians' nose. When they finally caught him, they discovered his crimes had been going on for a long time, and he even killed outside Austria. He went as far as the USA where he also killed.
    Ugh.. cases like that are infuriating! I also saw a documentary on that Austrian cellar guy, Josef Fritzl, that said he had also been busted for rape before. It really makes the blood boil to think these evil scumbags could have been stopped earlier in their criminal careers.

    I'm convinced that rapists, pedophiles, etc. cannot be cured of their mental illness. The history of repeat offenses amongst such individuals is testament to this. If they are found guilty after a fair trial, then either castrate 'em or put 'em down.

    And naturally, cold blooded killers deserve death. For other crimes not involving rape or murder, I think a "3 strikes and your out" policy is sensible (including a stiff prison sentence for each strike), reducing it to 2 strikes in more egregious cases.

    The way liberals tend to coddle and sympathize with criminal deviants is yet another one of their despicable characteristics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torch_Bearer View Post
    Ugh.. cases like that are infuriating! I also saw a documentary on that Austrian cellar guy, Josef Fritzl, that said he had also been busted for rape before. It really makes the blood boil to think these evil scumbags could have been stopped earlier in their criminal careers.

    I'm convinced that rapists, pedophiles, etc. cannot be cured of their mental illness. The history of repeat offenses amongst such individuals is testament to this. If they are found guilty after a fair trial, then either castrate 'em or put 'em down.

    And naturally, cold blooded killers deserve death. For other crimes not involving rape or murder, I think a "3 strikes and your out" policy is sensible (including a stiff prison sentence for each strike), reducing it to 2 strikes in more egregious cases.

    The way liberals tend to coddle and sympathize with criminal deviants is yet another one of their despicable characteristics.
    Oh, the Fritzl case was a big blow for Austria. It practically ruined our reputation in the international eye. I'm convinced there are ignorant people out there who believe men like Fritzl are representative of Austria.

    Yes, the police found his previous criminal record, and he was known as a sex offender. His record contained a conviction for rape and an attempt rape as well as an arrest for public exposure. The most ridiculous thing about this man is that his criminal deeds were blamed on "Austria's nazi past".
    THINK! It's not illegal yet.

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    Hmm, once I saw a criminalistic show where someone compiled a scale of criminals. The highest rank were the torture murderers who did it for the sadistic pleasure. In my view, peoples who score on that rank shouldn't be given a second chance to rehabilitate. Because they are too psychologically instable to be able to part of society anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sissi View Post
    Oh, the Fritzl case was a big blow for Austria. It practically ruined our reputation in the international eye. I'm convinced there are ignorant people out there who believe men like Fritzl are representative of Austria.

    Yes, the police found his previous criminal record, and he was known as a sex offender. His record contained a conviction for rape and an attempt rape as well as an arrest for public exposure. The most ridiculous thing about this man is that his criminal deeds were blamed on "Austria's nazi past".
    Yeah, in the documentary I saw some psychologist or something speculated that he may have become an overbearing control-freak due to his childhood experience in the Nazi era. The media just can't help but squeeze in a shot at NS any chance they get.

    Anyway, I don't know about in Europe, but it did get a lot of publicity over here in the States just because it was such a truly shocking case in and of itself. I think most people realized it was an isolated incident that could have happened anywhere.

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    I doubt the topic is so simple as it looks. The born criminal theory was shaken when psychologists discovered serial killers with normal childhood and pre-criminal lives. What's more some psychological experiments were conducted which hinted average Joe would have committed murder if given the chance.

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