Classify Austrian Actress Birgit Minichmayr (Der Untergang)

[Siebenbürgerin]

How would you classify her?















Hmm, I couldn't find very good profile shots.

[Waldstein]

I hardly see anything more than Easteuropid: Maybe a westbaltid/baltid mix, probably with some alpinid admixture, too. Not sure about mongolic influence though.

[mvbeleg]

I think that metrically she seems rather Cromagnid. Note the squarish facial shape along with the square jaw.

The Baltoid influence is very apparent nonetheless. Note the eyeshape, the rounded forehead, the broad nose of low depth and round alae, the fleshiness of the face, and the larger lips.

I would classify her as Cromagnid/Baltoid.

[Waldstein]

I think that metrically she seems rather Cromagnid. Note the squarish facial shape along with the square jaw.

O.K., I admit these features are quite striking despite the fleshiness of the face, but could these not be mere remnants spared from baltisation-process?

By the way: The woman in the second picture is not her, is she?

[mvbeleg]

O.K., I admit these features are quite striking despite the fleshiness of the face, but could these not be mere remnants spared from baltisation-process?

Note: When I write Cromagnid/Baltoid, this is not to necessarily imply a admixture. Rather, it is my attempt to best capture her craniometrics and facial morphology.

Obviously, you were using West-Baltid to describe her more Cromagniform characteristics.

Accepting the hypothesis of balticization where Baltoids are partially derived from a Cromagnid type could allow for certain Cromagnid tendencies to resurface. This is certainly something to consider. Though I would think such a case as extreme as the one herein would be unusual [but still possible]. The strong Cromagnid cranial features are in stark contrast to the Baltoid "soft parts".

Here is an alternative to your suggestion: the subject may have a relatively recent Cromagnid ancestor and Baltoid ancester with she being influenced by these.

By the way: The woman in the second picture is not her, is she?

Right.

[Siebenbürgerin]

By the way: The woman in the second picture is not her, is she?

No, in the second picture the woman is the character she's playing in the movie, Gerda Christian.

[Sigurd]

I saw a few slightly better profile shots in this weeks issue of TV-Media, a TV-programme magazine in Austria, taken from her new movie, "Alle Anderen".

Overall, she most importantly appears to be Alpinid. The Cro-Magnoid character of some of her traits is undoubtedly due to - my theory is well-known on here - Alpinids representing a more borealised version of Borrebies. THe slightly square jaw helps this impression.

The high gender dimorphism between males and females, with levels of infantilisation untypically high in the latter, in the more robust CM types (Borreby, Brünn, Baltid) helps to stress the Alpinid impression however.

A few semi-profile shots make it difficult to categorically exclude influences on the Atlantonordoid spectrum, her forehead seems a little high for a full-fledged Alpinid.

As far as the most important contributions to her phenotype are concerned, I would note her down as Pred. Alpinoid/Infantilised Cromagnoid.