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    After 60 Years, Germans Learn to Love Themselves

    After six decades atoning for the crimes of the Nazis, Germans are rediscovering a sense of patriotism and are no longer ashamed to wave their flag and sing the national anthem.

    They are even daring to discuss bringing back a bravery medal -- unthinkable a decade ago in a country which rejected militarism and turned fiercely pacifist.

    This non-aggressive self confidence, also evident in a more assertive foreign policy, is increasingly manifesting itself as Germany this year celebrates 60 years as a democracy and the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall.

    "The German soul, bruised and discredited by the Nazi era, has to a large degree been healed," said Eugen Buss, a sociology professor at the University of Hohenheim.

    "We're seeing a normalization," he told Reuters. Buss was a consultant for a recent study on German identity, published before celebrations for the constitution's 60th birthday get going this month with street parties and public events.

    The study, carried out by the Identity Foundation in Duesseldorf, showed twice as many Germans were "very proud" to be German as eight years ago, said Buss. Almost 73 percent think they should show more confidence about being German.

    The experience of managing a successful democracy and economy have taught both eastern and western Germans they are entitled to feelings other than shame about the past, said Buss.

    The nation startled itself during the 2006 soccer World Cup tournament, when millions of people painted flags on their faces, wearing red, gold and black hats and chanting the national anthem.

    Younger generations seem to be particularly relaxed.

    "I'm not ashamed of being German -- maybe my parents or grandparents were because they were closer to the National Socialist era," said Nina Krause, a 14-year-old student in a group visiting Berlin's German Historical Museum.

    "To me, being German means I am comfortable and have the chance to have a good future," she said.

    The museum, which attracts 50,000 visitors a month, opened its permanent exhibition on German history just three years ago.

    It starts in 9 A.D. with the battle of Teutoburg Forest when German tribesmen defeated the Romans and stopped Germania beyond the river Rhine becoming part of the Roman empire.

    Exhibits include a cavalry mask from that battle, a giant globe that sat in Hitler's office with a bullet hole through Germany -- probably inflicted by a Soviet soldier -- and a section of the Berlin Wall.

    The most popular exhibit, however, is a large changing map of Europe which shows how borders have emerged and disappeared over 2,000 years, says the museum's Director Hans Ottomeyer.
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    This is such wonderful news. Germans must learn to ignore negative propaganda which seeks to keep them in a permanent vacuum, prohibiting them from having any sense of pride, traditional, national identity and ethnic awareness.


    Germany is being taken over by immigrants, many of them negative or hostile to German culture and tradition. Germany must stand strong and learn how to say no, and to stand up for its right to exist and prosper, and it must make reforms in schools so that they are not taught to be guilt-ridden and insecure. That indoctrination - inherently anti-German - must stop. In short, they must now look after their own interests and build a healthy national awarness and psychological strength.


    This permanent state of guilt that many live with is unhealthy, unworthy and unfair. Innocent young Germans today should not pay a price for past actions, and anti-German forces with an interest in keeping Germany forever emasculated should be fought vigorously, whoever they are.

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    The German soul, bruised and discredited by the Nazi era, has to a large degree been healed" said Eugen Buss, a sociology professor at the University of Hohenheim,
    Merely bruised? I would say the German soul has been spat at, trampled on, humiliated, degraded, tortured, starved, ostracized, shamed. He speaks as if the German spirit has suffered a bit of a boo-boo, or scraped knee. Once again, someone downplaying Germany’s true suffering.

    Freja_se wrote
    Innocent young Germans today should not pay a price for past actions
    You say this as if you believe Germans are guilty.

    anti-German forces with an interest in keeping Germany forever emasculated should be fought vigorously, whoever they are.
    You mean you don’t know?
    Who owns the media in Germany? Who owns the companies who write the textbooks? Who controls the film industry? Who influences the German govt. to pass “hate” laws?

    This article is negative propaganda because it does not or ever will discuss what really needs to be done. Which is teaching young Germans the truth about WWII and just why Germans were forced to atone for things they are innocent of.
    It implies that Germans can have pride just as long as they don’t mistake it for White Nationalism. This article was designed to distract attention from WN and allow Germans to have pride but without any of the old Germanic ways. Waving a flag and singing a few patriotic songs may be seen by some as a beginning, but for me this is the proverbial bone thrown to angry or confused people.

    The fact of the matter is that Germans are being ALLOWED to have a sense of national pride when they shouldn’t have to have anyone’s approval. Germany should answer to no one, least of all atoning for crimes it did not commit.
    This article is saying that Germans deserve a bit of a break for all that self-hatred, once again implying that we all hate ourselves as for “what we did”.

    Here are a few of my favorite lines from the article:

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    Younger generations (of Germans) seem to be particularly relaxed
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    Yep. Relaxed about immigration, integration, homosexuality, that is what this sentence really means to me.

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    "I'm not ashamed of being German -- maybe my parents or grandparents were because they were closer to the National Socialist era," said Nina Krause, a 14-year-old student in a group visiting Berlin's German Historical Museum.
    Brainwashed response. Saying “we are prideful but not in the old german ways my evil ancestors adhered to”. This to me is not pride at all, but a manufactured kind of patriotism that is catered to conspirators agenda. Notice they cited a 14 year old. They always use the children to advance their goals.

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    "To me, being German means I am comfortable and have the chance to have a good future,"
    To me, being German is having the right to deny German “history” of the last 60 years without fear of persecution.(Its coming to America soon enough) Only then can I ever be comfortable

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    After World War Two defeat and the realisation that millions of Germans took part in or knew about Nazi atrocities, a collective sense of shame weighed on Germans for decades.
    Once again they assume to speak for all Germans, lumping us in with the bleeding hearts and the liberals.

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    Bookshops have in recent years reported a surge in sales of history books from a variety of eras, such as the time of the kingdom of Prussia and the Middle Ages which, academics say, makes for a more balanced outlook on life.
    I bet these are post WWII history books, as written and approved by the allies.

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    To reflect this, the museum's Ottomeyer has given a broad focus to his German history exhibition, which embraces the country's European heritage. Exhibits include Napoleon's hat from the battle of Waterloo, mementos of the Portuguese empire and a Turkish tent from the 1683 siege of Vienna
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    I'll bet that turkish tent is displayed with the usual politically correct “facts” and says nothing about why Europeans really kept the muslims out. It will not be used as an ironic way of explaining the twenty-first century version of muslim invasion. I bet anything that it will shame Germans even for this victory.

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    That is striking given Germany had a relatively short tradition of democracy before Hitler's rise to power in 1933 compared with countries like Britain and France.
    Are they speaking of the disgusting bohemian Weimar Berlin? This is precisely how they want things to be again, and have pretty much achieved this.


    About the only time this article spoke with honesty is the following passage:

    While Germans feel close to the fatherland, they lack a sense of duty toward it, said Buss, noting that only 14 percent of Germans are prepared to die for their country, far fewer than in such countries as the United States and Britain.
    And while Germans want their politicians to be more assertive, they are still nervous about flexing military muscle.
    Immigrant communities say one of the main reasons for integration problems is Germans' lack of self confidence and a fear of diluting their own culture

    The following must be the comic relief of the article:

    Turks in Berlin staged a show of unity with Germany in the 2006 World Cup by wrapping themselves in the red, gold and black flag and honking car horns after German victories.
    "Turks helped Germans celebrate and gain self-confidence," said Kenan Kolat, head of the Ditib Turkish-Islamic Union
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    Aren’t those German-loving turks wonderful?!!! That must mean they should stay!!!

    The nation startled itself during the 2006 soccer World Cup tournament, when millions of people painted flags on their faces, wearing red, gold and black hats and chanting the national anthem
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    I would love to see a video of this. It does indeed sound beautiful.

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    Germans should popularise the fact they are the ethnic family who are manifest as the English, 'pre-60's' Americans, 'Protestants', Dutch, Aussies etc. Then sympathy will be easily forthcoming and of a strong kind. Germany should advertise everything Germania has given to the world (e.g a tiny selection Nasa (Through Von Braun), the English royal family (The Saxe-Gothas), preeminent automobiles) and promote itself as the centre and homeland of Germania.

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