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    Bill Will Ban 'White-Only' BNP

    The British National Party will be forced to admit black and Jewish members under the Government's new Equalities Bill, ministers revealed today.

    Commons leader Harriet Harman said the new legislation would make it illegal to have a "whites-only" political party in the UK.

    Under the BNP's constitution, membership is "strictly defined" as "indigenous Caucasian".

    Ms Harman said the bill will outlaw such restrictions in a bid to stop "apartheid-style" politics being imported to Britain.

    She told the Commons: "We have all been shocked and horrified by the fact that two great regions of this country - the North-West and Yorkshire and Humberside - are represented by the British National Party - a party who have in their constitution a provision that you cannot be a member if you are not white.

    "In the Equality Bill passing through this house, that constitution will be unlawful."

    Ms Harman said she hoped the Tories would now stop opposing the bill because "it prevents us having an apartheid political party in this country".

    She said: "I think all of us should agree there's no place for a party in this country to have an apartheid constitution."
    http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...BNP/article.do

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    Since I can't see too many Blacks, Gypsies, Jews or Pakistani being actually interested in joining the BNP, it's really a non-issue. Yea, so under that bill they'd have to accept any Black applying for membership, but essentially there's hardly going to be too many Blacks which would even want to become BNP members. No membership applications from ethnic minorities = no need to take any in. Even if this bill is passed, it is not bound to have much factual effect at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Since I can't see too many Blacks, Gypsies, Jews or Pakistani being actually interested in joining the BNP, it's really a non-issue. Yea, so under that bill they'd have to accept any Black applying for membership, but essentially there's hardly going to be too many Blacks which would even want to become BNP members. No membership applications from ethnic minorities = no need to take any in. Even if this bill is passed, it is not bound to have much factual effect at all.
    I don't see many negroes applying for membership either. Jews however, that's another story. There are already Jewish supporters of the BNP. It's anti-Muslim and pro-Zionist after all, and the Jews and Muslims hate each other's guts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Since I can't see too many Blacks, Gypsies, Jews or Pakistani being actually interested in joining the BNP, it's really a non-issue. Yea, so under that bill they'd have to accept any Black applying for membership, but essentially there's hardly going to be too many Blacks which would even want to become BNP members. No membership applications from ethnic minorities = no need to take any in. Even if this bill is passed, it is not bound to have much factual effect at all.
    Honestly, the argument that the passing of a new bill is a non-issue because the bill will have little effect or seems harmless is a very weak one.

    A political party is an organization for people who share some kind of ideology or belief. Naturally they should be allowed to exclude anyone who they suspect doesn't share their ideas, without even giving an explanation for that matter.

    And this bill does have implications. If the party is forced to accept its enemies as members, the party can't prevent such enemies from attending the party congress and other meetings. Thereby restricting the members' ability to speak freely.

    As far as can I see, the sole purpose of this bill is to cripple the BNP. And it's a rotten trick to hide this behind some kind of anti-apartheid mumbo-jumbo.

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    Does this bill imply that, for instance, all-black organisations are also forbidden? If not, then I wonder if something so hypocritical will succeed in parliament?

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    The BNP has been admitting Jews for quite some time and even have an elected Jewish councillor!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todesengel View Post
    I don't see many negroes applying for membership either. Jews however, that's another story. There are already Jewish supporters of the BNP. It's anti-Muslim and pro-Zionist after all, and the Jews and Muslims hate each other's guts.
    The BNP is not especially pro-Zionist. The party opposes the "war on terror" and opposes the idea of an "Israel First" policy such as the US has. The view is that Islam belongs in the middle east and not in Europe and they should all go and live there. The BNP has no special friendship with Israel and mostly condemns the degree of brutality used by Israel if anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liemannen View Post
    A political party is an organization for people who share some kind of ideology or belief. Naturally they should be allowed to exclude anyone who they suspect doesn't share their ideas, without even giving an explanation for that matter.
    Exactly. A political party need not bow to another political parties idea of a life lived. The fact that this party is telling another political party to adapt their moral ideology is complete madness. This is not how freedom should work and quite factually is clear proof that a democratic system is corrupt.

    Nations should be built by unifying values and other(s) with common thought should live separately and trade peacefully.

    I am a big believer that different ideologies can co-exist peacefully. However they cannot be a part of the same national economic system.

    Also I love the war of words that goes on between the MSM and the actual words used. In the BNP constitution the wording used is "indigenous Caucasian" while the MSM uses the word White. Now I'm not denying we use the word White to define ourselves or even more so other groups use that word to define us. But it really shows great creativity of the BNP to use the phrase "indigenous Caucasian".

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    While Jews are allowed to be BNP members I do think the leadership recognises that they are not to be considered as Britons in an ethnic sense. At least I hope and pray that's the case.

    “I will give you my definition of a nation, and you can add the adjective ‘Jewish.’ A Nation is, in my mind, an historical group of men of a recognizable cohesion held together by a common enemy. Then, if you add to that the word ‘Jewish’ you have what I understand to be the Jewish nation.”

    —THEODOR HERZL.

    “Let us all recognize that we Jews are a distinct nationality of which every Jew, whatever his country, his station, or shade of belief, is necessarily a member.”

    —LOUIS D. BRANDEIS
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    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/Intl_Je...rsion/ij22.htm

    Interesting how Herzl, the founder of Zionism, feels that having "a common enemy" is essential to nationhood. That is a particularly Jewish perspective. To them, everyone non Jewish is their enemy, even "allies" like the US are viewed as a threat at all times.

    Having an enemy should have NOTHING to do with the definition of a nation and it is terrifying that this powerful tribe feel that their existence depends upon such a hostile outlook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd
    Even if this bill is passed, it is not bound to have much factual effect at all.
    Sigurd, that is really naive. This attempt actually is the declaration of the failure of democracy.
    The idea of democracy is that there are different opinions forming and handling together the nation, and each represent a fracture of its population. Now the BNP holds a view that is considered 'antagonistic' to the mainstream. Instead of dealing with it like democrats the pro-multiculti part limits the possibilities of the people they claim to represent by banning a party (and attempting to ban a part of their foundation is almost banning the party), that currently represents a remarkable part of the population.

    Instead of looking at the possible results, which indeed might not have an impact at all, look at the symbolic act that it is. And once a remarkable part of the population understood the symbolism behind it really should cause an outcry for our right to vote the party we want, and if this is a racist and nationalist party, then democracy should deal with it and not play the affronted. It's democracy, the will of the folk

    This attempt is actually one where they show their real faces, they dont care about the people, they care about their agenda, even if it is against the people's will. Hopefully this will cause really big trouble and people start to wake up.
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