View Poll Results: Is national socialism a germans' only ideology?

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  • Yes, only Germans can be true national socialists. It is not for export.

    32 28.32%
  • No, other immediately-related people like Germanic people can also practice it.

    15 13.27%
  • No, it can be practiced by any European (and European-descended) people.

    21 18.58%
  • No, it can be practiced by any European and "honorary" or allied people, e.g. Japan.

    20 17.70%
  • No, any nation in the world can practice national socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauz R. Waldher View Post
    Also, stop suggesting what's right for a National Socialist. You are in NO position to make that call. I admit, I have avoided affiliation with the U.S.N.S.M. because of the fact that almost EVERY single one of their members are tattooed to the hilt and have shaved heads. Not that there's anything wrong with having some people that appear that stereotypical way ... but the N.S. movement will never be taken serious until we start to at least "appear" "normal". Most people who call themselves NS are fake and lying or trying to be cool. Not too many know very much about NS.
    The NSM are the last to be used as examples of nationalsocialists. Americans have vague and perverted ideas of this German concept. They are laughed at as Hollywood nazis for a reason. But it's not the tattoos, it's their disconnection to German heritage. Americans should stick to their own version of racialism and be proud to be Americans, not German wannabes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todesengel View Post
    The NSM are the last to be used as examples of nationalsocialists. Americans have vague and perverted ideas of this German concept. They are laughed at as Hollywood nazis for a reason. But it's not the tattoos, it's their disconnection to German heritage. Americans should stick to their own version of racialism and be proud to be Americans, not German wannabes.

    Oh really? Let me tell you something. THOUSANDS of men who were not from Germany died in WWII fighting for Adolf Hitler. And I would have been one of them. NS is an ideal. A spiritual ideal and a political movement. As you know, or should know, this ideal extends beyond the man made borders of Germany. NS was designed for ALL of our people. Here we go again, some "so-called" elitist who can't even stand up on his own two legs telling me how it is or should be. I will show you what a real American National Socialist looks like. People respect and fear me because of my confidence and knowledge (which isn't perfect but it's much more than the average american). I am fearless and will never back down because of government laws or public scrutiny. Which is more than I can say for the average German of today. I am accepted as an OPEN advocate of National Socialism because no one has the guts to challenge me. And if they do then I will defend myself and National Socialism until death. And one day I will die for the NS ideals, and I will join my brothers in Valhalla who died and sacrificed their lives in WWII for Adolf Hitler and the dream of National Socialism. NS unites us all. It is not a "German phenomenon" as the media would suggest. Hitler wasn't even German. Hess wasn't even born in Germany.
    But, if you must know ... the state in which I live was founded and built by GERMAN people. Ever heard of the Amish? You ever hear of "Pennsylvania Dutch"? My family is German. My mother was born there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauz R. Waldher View Post
    Oh really? Let me tell you something. THOUSANDS of men who were not from Germany died in WWII fighting for Adolf Hitler. And I would have been one of them. NS is an ideal. A spiritual ideal and a political movement. As you know, or should know, this ideal extends beyond the man made borders of Germany. NS was designed for ALL of our people. Here we go again, some "so-called" elitist who can't even stand up on his own two legs telling me how it is or should be. I will show you what a real American National Socialist looks like. People respect and fear me because of my confidence and knowledge (which isn't perfect but it's much more than the average american). I am fearless and will never back down because of government laws or public scrutiny. Which is more than I can say for the average German of today. I am accepted as an OPEN advocate of National Socialism because no one has the guts to challenge me. And if they do then I will defend myself and National Socialism until death. And one day I will die for the NS ideals, and I will join my brothers in Valhalla who died and sacrificed their lives in WWII for Adolf Hitler and the dream of National Socialism. NS unites us all. It is not a "German phenomenon" as the media would suggest. Hitler wasn't even German. Hess wasn't even born in Germany.
    But, if you must know ... the state in which I live was founded and built by GERMAN people. Ever heard of the Amish? You ever hear of "Pennsylvania Dutch"? My family is German. My mother was born there.
    LOL. I think you need some history lessons. Hitler was a German and the German character of nationalsocialism doesn't come from the media but from German nationalsocialists themselves (Goebbels for instance said that it wasn't for export). And I never said you have to be born in Germany to be German, I said ancestry is not enough. Majority of Americans lack German heritage.

    As for the rest, it must be true because a psudonym on the Internet writes it? I bet you also have stories about singlehandedly beating an entire gang of niggers Or Mexicans. You haven't shown me anything except unsubstantiated claims. A serious activist does his activism and doesn't brag about it on the Internet to people he doesn't know anyway. You're a self-proclaimed warrior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauz R. Waldher View Post
    Hitler wasn't even German.
    Hahahahahahahaha

    And what was he? A mexican?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todesengel View Post
    LOL. I think you need some history lessons. Hitler was a German and the German character of nationalsocialism doesn't come from the media but from German nationalsocialists themselves (Goebbels for instance said that it wasn't for export). And I never said you have to be born in Germany to be German, I said ancestry is not enough. Majority of Americans lack German heritage.

    As for the rest, it must be true because a psudonym on the Internet writes it? I bet you also have stories about singlehandedly beating an entire gang of niggers Or Mexicans. You haven't shown me anything except unsubstantiated claims. A serious activist does his activism and doesn't brag about it on the Internet to people he doesn't know anyway. You're a self-proclaimed warrior.
    I didn't brag about anything at all. All I said is that i'm fearless and proud. And why do I need to show YOU something? You're are the same as you call me, "an internet personality". You're right, you don't know me ... so why do you suggest that i'm lying? What do I have to lie about? All I said is that no one challenges me. It's true. I haven't even mentioned anything that i've ever done. If I did however, you'd accuse me of lying. So I allow others to speak for me. As far as actions are concerned.
    YES, a "majority" of americans lack heritage. I'm not one of them. I'm not trying to be a "German Nationalist" am I? I'm an american by birth, yes. I am Germanic racially and ethnically. Are you suggesting that all of the men of the Waffen-SS who were not German were false in their convictions? Which is about half, maybe more. Germany is on her knees right now. We have a greater chance of NS being resurrected here in the U.S. than Germany does at this time. Germany doesn't even have it's own military. You're not even allowed to own weapons. You can't even give an open hand salute. European-Americans have revolution in their blood. Our forefathers were Germanic and fought and died against christian tyranny. We were not rejects, our forefathers are HEROES. Have you ever read the story of George Washington? The real story? American culture could have been rich. But it's being distorted and raped. It was Europeans who built this land. Which was, not too long ago .. the greatest in the world.
    "The mystery and secret of Wotan is not that "knowledge" of him is passed along through clandestine cults or even through the re-discovery of old books and texts--but rather that such knowledge is actually encoded in a mysterious way in the DNA, in the very genetic material, of those who are descended from him." - Secret of the Gothick God of Darkness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauz R. Waldher View Post
    Germany is on her knees right now. We have a greater chance of NS being resurrected here in the U.S. than Germany does at this time. Germany doesn't even have it's own military. You're not even allowed to own weapons. You can't even give an open hand salute.
    I disagree. The chances of NS being resurrected in the US are equal to me shooting a penguin in the middle of the Sahara desert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haliaeetus View Post
    I disagree. The chances of NS being resurrected in the US are equal to me shooting a penguin in the middle of the Sahara desert.
    It hasmore of a chance than Germany, that is what I said.
    "The mystery and secret of Wotan is not that "knowledge" of him is passed along through clandestine cults or even through the re-discovery of old books and texts--but rather that such knowledge is actually encoded in a mysterious way in the DNA, in the very genetic material, of those who are descended from him." - Secret of the Gothick God of Darkness

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kauz R. Waldher View Post
    It hasmore of a chance than Germany, that is what I said.
    No. If NS is to be revived it will happen in Europe. US don`t have the revolutionary potential required for such a thing to happen. Europe on the other hand does.
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    Practical problems aside, NS is the product of a German tradition, making it much more plausible to be revived in Germany than anywhere else. For this to happen though, Germany should return to that tradition and completely break with the democratic culture that has dominated since WWII. Whether the current Germany will only appear to be a temporary breach with history remains to be shown by the future of Germany.
    But this tradition is of vital importance and since the US have a strong tradition of the souvereignty of abstract rationalist Law, it would be very hard to implement a nationalsocialist system over there, because for that to happen the US has to break with its own tradition completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernhard View Post
    Practical problems aside, NS is the product of a German tradition, making it much more plausible to be revived in Germany than anywhere else. For this to happen though, Germany should return to that tradition and completely break with the democratic culture that has dominated since WWII. Whether the current Germany will only appear to be a temporary breach with history remains to be shown by the future of Germany.
    But this tradition is of vital importance and since the US have a strong tradition of the souvereignty of abstract rationalist Law, it would be very hard to implement a nationalsocialist system over there, because for that to happen the US has to break with its own tradition completely.
    Or a total collapse of america as it is now. I'm not saying that it is likely.

    The German people are more liberal then the americans are. As of right now.
    Look, I don't want this to turn into something that looks like i'm "against Germany". I do not want to talk badly about germany. But insulting me as an American is forcing me to do so.
    If you read the posts after my first post, you will see how my words are being twisted. It is said that i'm "bragging". It is said that I said that "NS was a media ideal". It is said that I said "Hitler was not Germanic". These are false statements. I never said any of this. You can see what I said right there in black and white. Hitler was not born in Germany. Hess was not born in Germany. And my point in mentioning this is to prove that NS is not strictly for "Germans". Germanics? YES. But that goes way beyond just Germany. And according to me, that is SO very obvious.
    "The mystery and secret of Wotan is not that "knowledge" of him is passed along through clandestine cults or even through the re-discovery of old books and texts--but rather that such knowledge is actually encoded in a mysterious way in the DNA, in the very genetic material, of those who are descended from him." - Secret of the Gothick God of Darkness

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