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    Dutch Liberal Leader: Holocaust Denial Should Not Be a Crime

    A proposal to decriminalize Holocaust denial in the Netherlands by the leader of the Dutch liberal party touched off controversy in the party on Wednesday and drew criticism from prominent Jewish figures and from the political establishment.

    Mark Rutte, head of the People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (VVD), said Dutch law should only prosecute those inciting to violence, not hatred. Claiming the Holocaust did not occur "should be possible," Rutte added.

    Sources close to Hans van Baalen, frontrunner for VVD in the European Elections next month, told Haaretz he opposed Rutte's proposal and was considering voicing his reservations. Van Baalen - known for his favorable attitude toward Israel - was unavailable for comment.

    Currently, Dutch law prohibits Holocaust denial only when it is purposefully used for discriminatory ends or meant to offend. Rutte said he intends to try and change this in the framework of a bill which the liberal VVD party will present to parliament, proposing to abolish all restrictions on freedom of expression.

    "Holocaust denial is almost always intended to offend and discriminate," said Henk de Haan, a notable former parliament member for the ruling CDA party. "Dutch society needs to defend against this. I'm shocked by this proposal and strongly disagree with Rutte, with whom I've worked and know to be a worthy and pleasant man."

    De Haan is a member of a non-governmental committee which monitors human rights abuses, nuclear weapons procurement and Holocaust denial by Iran's leadership. "A person like [Iranian President] Mahmoud Ahmadinejad cannot be allowed to visit Holland, and we need to keep the laws on this," he said.

    Rutte's bill would make it impossible to prosecute Geert Wilders, leader of the rightist Party for Freedom, who is now facing trial for comparing the Koran to Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler. A party spokesperson said the party had no comment on the issue.

    Ronny Naftaniel, head of the Hague-based Center for Information and Documentation Israel - Holland's largest Zionist group - said that cases like that of Wilders are different to Holocaust denial because "people can choose a religion, but they cannot choose their ethnicity or the color of their skin."

    Naftaniel - who has criticized Wilders for the comparison - told Haaretz that Holocaust denial "is almost always used for a political purpose, which is discrimination. This needs to be nipped in the bud before it's too late."

    He added: "Holocaust denial causes psychological pain to survivors. Rutte underestimates the intensity of the pain that this allowing this will needlessly cause them."
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1088643.html

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    I wish the media would call it holocaust revisionists, really we don’t want to deny any thing we just want proof, but i guess that is asking way too much.

    Thanks Todesengel very informative, pity that there are no Dutch comments as yet. Seeing as this should be a glimmer of hope no matter how insignificant it ends up being. Mr Mark Rutte deserves a round of applause, and as for Mr’s de Haan and Van Baalen a firing squad for them or they can save their people a whole lot of trouble and do it themselves, worthless to their race and people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freaky Naftaniel
    He added: "Holocaust denial causes psychological pain to survivors. Rutte underestimates the intensity of the pain that this allowing this will needlessly cause them."
    Ah, and what about the pain the zionist terror on freedom of speech and expression causes for all other people, whites, who also cant 'choose' their ethnicity and get subdued and discriminised whereever possible?

    My pity for the so-called survivors (meanwhile one has to wonder how old Jews can become, eh?) is quite limited, but I guess 60 years of lying to themselves and starting to believe in their own lie can cause psychological pain when they're confronted with doubts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimner View Post
    Mr Mark Rutte deserves a round of applause,
    The Holocaust quote was an answer to a trapquestion when Rutte stated that he is a proponent of a large freedom of speech. Good for him that he stood his ground. But since it did not help the VVD defeat the PVV in the EP-elections do not count on Rutte to bring up the issue again.

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