Oslo: 40% of Schools Have Immigrant Majority

[Verðandi]

A year and a half ago, 48 out of 138 elementary schools (34%) had an immigrant majority. The new statistics show that quite a few schools closed down.


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[snublefot]

That's the sad fact about the inner city and east side parts of Oslo, yes. It's only the beginning. Within the next 20 years Oslo will have an immigrant majority population.

[Kiel]

That's the sad fact about the inner city and east side parts of Oslo, yes. It's only the beginning. Within the next 20 years Oslo will have an immigrant majority population.

What do the readers of this thread think is is best way for Norwegians to deal with this problem and change this trend??

[snublefot]

What do the readers of this thread think is is best way for Norwegians to deal with this problem and change this trend??

It's difficult. Before anything can be done there has to be a total change of paradigm in the people. But here in Norway, as in Germany, USA, France and UK, the Marxist and capitalist ideas of open borders and free movement of capital and labor has poisoned the minds of the people. In this climate there is little room for any significant change.
There are socalled restrictive right wing parties who talk about limiting the number of immigrants and introducing stricter laws to improve integration.
This however is just a show for the people. They will never pass laws to limit immigration as long as they can get cheap labor for the industry. And integration is the absolutely worst scenario. If the immigrants start following the law, aren't a burden for the social system, works and pays their taxes and stop making senseless religious and cultural demands people might not see immigration as much of a problem anymore. Then we will get the melting pot ala USA. That will be the end of the Norwegian people and culture!

Most people don't seem to realise that we are a culture of only 4 million people. We don't even fill a citypart of Lahore, Islamabad or Sao Paolo!

Today we're a small and insignificant country in the Germanic brotherhood of nations, but we have a proud and long history that has been central in influencing many of the Germanic cultures of Europe. It would be sad to see it disappearing into history.

[Blod og Jord]

I'm worried about what the Norwegians in cities like Oslo will do.
I'm supposing they'll move out sooner or later,
escaping the immigrant dominated areas.
The best solution for the Norwegian people is,
in my opinion, repatriation of the immigrants.
Even if the immigration is restricted, there are already too many.
Integration of them is dangerous because they will mingle with Norwegians,
and the result will be biracial children.
But of course repatriation is easier said than done.
Maybe a way to encourage it,
would be to pay the immigrant some money,
if he moves to his country back.

[snublefot]

I'm worried about what the Norwegians in cities like Oslo will do.
I'm supposing they'll move out sooner or later,
escaping the immigrant dominated areas.
The best solution for the Norwegian people is,
in my opinion, repatriation of the immigrants.
Even if the immigration is restricted, there are already too many.
Integration of them is dangerous because they will mingle with Norwegians,
and the result will be biracial children.
But of course repatriation is easier said than done.
Maybe a way to encourage it,
would be to pay the immigrant some money,
if he moves to his country back.

Repatriation.. It's a nice word, but maybe not very practical. You seem to forget what happened when the Serbian people tried to repatriate the Albanian immigrants from their province Kosovo.
You see, for some reason the US intensely want the melting pot to happen here in Europe as well, and they will go to any length to see it happening.
Problem is that the most powerful economic and military power already lost the battle we have before us and is today dominated by the masters of the gold.

Rothschilds and the Federal Reserve

[velvet]

Most people don't seem to realise that we are a culture of only 4 million people. We don't even fill a citypart of Lahore, Islamabad or Sao Paolo!

In the other thread were written that Norway has about 76.000 practising muslims, that makes a bit less than 2%.

It is really shocking to see that a minority like this can have such an impact on a country. I sometimes read Norwegian newspapers and half the frontpages are full with crimes committed by immigrants. Then the hot discussions about how to comfort them, from hijabs in police uniforms to splitted swimming classes, mosquee building and sharia law.

And obviously in the last years they have become much more 'aggressive' in changing the host culture, we have lots of muslim immigrants (about 15% of our population) since the 60s, those cultural demands though are relatively new.

But it is exactly this new aggression what will eventually (hopefully) lead to the paradigm change. If there is somewhere a gene left within us that has this survival instinct, we must wake up someday, despite all the hostile policies.

I just wonder if the official numbers are correct somehow. How can 2% make up a majority of children in schools?

Repatriation.. It's a nice word, but maybe not very practical. You seem to forget what happened when the Serbian people tried to repatriate the Albanian immigrants from their province Kosovo.

This is a complete different situation, the Kosovo was part of Jugoslavia including the Albanian people. The war splitted the region and 'suddenly' the Serbs wanted to get rid off them, actually trying to throw them out of their own homelands.
But your (and in general all our european countries') immigrants are really immigrants, Europe is not their homeland, the very most of them came only recently.
And that paid repatriation is possible Japan demonstrated lately, sending people 'back home' to South America who were even of Japanese descent and re-immigrated to Japan in the last years.

[Siebenbürgerin]

Hmm, but 2% is an official, census figure? Because in Romania officially there are less Gypsies at the census than in reality. What happens is some don't declare themselves, others declare themselves as Romanian. I'm imagining if a Muslim has Norwegian citizenship, he will count himself as Norwegian at the census? The second generation immigrants are probably not counted also? Maybe there are Muslims who call themselves moderate and don't practice also?

[Patrioten]

Those 2% can mean just about anything: fresh off the plane immigrants, first and second generation immigrants, first second and third generation immigrants, individuals with an immigrant background, individuals with one immigrant parent etc. Unless they include the exact definition of what the term 'immigrant' means, includes and excludes, in that particular context we're left in the dark as to what it means.

[snublefot]

This is a complete different situation, the Kosovo was part of Jugoslavia including the Albanian people.

Sure, and now some 250 000 pakistanis and north africans are part of Norway, with passport and everything. With what justification does one revoke a persons citizenship and throw him out of the country?
That is exactly what the situation was in Serbia! Through centuries of immigration they seized an entire province of the country and ceded from it.

This is the case not only in Norway, but in Europe at large and the US. When you make someone a citizen its no longer a question of throwing out immigrants, but something a lot more complicated.