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    Lebensraum: Expansive Races, Recessive Genes

    In human history, the expansive races of humans have always been races that generally possess recessive genes. The more intellegent, powerful and conquering races, like Aryans and Oriental races, are races with usually fairly recessive genes, have less testosterone, but usually are smarter and more able to build civilization. Negroes on the other hand, have very dominant genes, are very animalistic, but are generally uncivilized, unless under the care of another race. Germanic/Nordic peoples possess the most recessive genes in all of mankind, but at the same time are the dominant race in actual ability. In order to ensure the survival of our superior yet delicate genes, we must some how achieve living space for our race or it will die from assimilation with foreign races. How are we going to achieve living space to save us from extinction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngloTeutonic View Post
    In human history, the expansive races of humans have always been races that generally possess recessive genes.
    ...such as the Mongols, the Incas and the Arabs?

    are races with usually fairly recessive genes, have less testosterone, but usually are smarter and more able to build civilization.
    The less über-masculine and more refined appearance is a trait true of the Nordid phenotype, but not quite so true of for example, the Borreby phenotype, also a central phenotype found commonly with Germanics.

    Good old Borreby lad LeifuR Eiriksson would have been a little infuriated at your attempt to claim him lacking in testosterone.

    The ability of Nordids over other sub-racial phenotypes found within the larger Germanic collective would also have to be proved first. In fact, many leaders would appear to be of a more robust description than would be the Nordid mean.

    If you included the "wider Nordish spectrum" in that, perhaps we could talk. Reducing it merely to plain Nordids, a phenotype rather unstable and only of secondary importance to our homelands, is however a matter of lacking perspective.

    Negroes on the other hand, have very dominant genes, are very animalistic, but are generally uncivilized, unless under the care of another race.
    Essentially this is not based upon dominance or recessivity, the highly unprogressive and rather dominant East-Asians such as the Chinese and Japanese appear to be refined, civilised, smart and inventive --- owing to their high average intelligence.

    Lower Negroid intelligence is instead, by my theory and research, perhaps based upon a smaller cranial capacity, which in turn allows them to run faster: A more hostile environment calls for quicker running - as a result, the pelvic bones of Negroids are narrower. Vice-versa, a smaller cranial capacity allows this less pelvic width to be possible.

    Whilst cranial capacity need not immediately be linked with intelligence, there is a good cause to suggest that it is, as there appears to be a correlation pointing that way. The fact that Neanderthals had an even greater cranial capacity than we do does not defeat this claim - it is still well possible that Neanderthals did not go extinct because of lesser intelligence but perhaps just due to being outnumbered.

    Germanic/Nordic peoples possess the most recessive genes in all of mankind, but at the same time are the dominant race in actual ability.
    Incorrect. The Blondism genes appear to be most wide-spread with some non-Germanic peoples, notable the Fennics and the Baltics. Estonians, Finns and Latvians are typically more likely to be light-pigmented than Germanics, they have a larger percentage of extremely light hair and eyes.

    This is even true when comparing these three ethnicities to the reputedly lightest-pigmented Germanic groups, the Swedes and the Icelanders.

    In order to ensure the survival of our superior yet delicate genes, we must some how achieve living space for our race or it will die from assimilation with foreign races.
    The survival of our racial genes is not enough. The preservation of the creative Germanic mind as well as Germanic culture is equally important.

    One could be a Nordid of Germanic ancestry, willingly converting to Islam, having been by happenstance raised in Egypt. He would still have his recessive genes, he would still be a Germanic by blood, but he would essentially be disjoined from his creative and cultural birthright.

    As far as living space is concerned, I do agree that essentially, should it become necessary, we Germanics should not be afraid to expand our territory. At this stage, however, rebuilding the folk collective is the prime importance. We cannot healthily expand and export our racial, ethnical, cultural and spiritual notions if the core unit is not healthy first.

    How are we going to achieve living space to save us from extinction?
    As stressed above - IMO this is not a question which merits discussion at this point in time. One step at a time --- before we can ask ourselves of how to achieve expansion, we must ask ourselves of how to get ourselves into a position in which such expansion is of merit.

    An ailing folk will not expand. Mending the core unit is a prerequisite before any expansions can be undertaken.
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    I think it is safe to say that any thoughts on reviving the idea of a drang nach osten are better left on the drawing board since the year isn't 1939 anymore, it's not realistic to think that we could expand eastward and not have to fight the Russians. And if a war with Russia is included in this plan, then I must seriously question the sanity behind it. Again, such a plan would be 70 years past its expiration date.

    If the idea is to expand beyond Europe's borders then we are faced with a different problem, the risk of racial miscegenation. If we move out of Europe we inevitably find ourselves bordering onto the territories of racial aliens whereas now we are living within the realtive safety of Europe's shorelines and a clear east/west divide.

    The idea of lebensraum made sense back in the 1930s, the Germans would have benefitted greatly from inhabiting and controlling the fertile soil of Ukraine and onwards, but today that idea just feels antiquated and riddled with problems.

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    Well we don't have to fight the Russian a peaceful colonization is more likely because the Russian demographics is in a faster decline as on the western side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrioten View Post
    The idea of lebensraum made sense back in the 1930s, the Germans would have benefitted greatly from inhabiting and controlling the fertile soil of Ukraine and onwards, but today that idea just feels antiquated and riddled with problems.
    The idea of Lebensraum is the logical consequence of any "folkish" state. It makes always sense. The question of immediate necessity, or ability, to take Lebensraum, has to be answered, in short, "when" and "how", the latter has just been asked, and deserves some thought.
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    Wouldnt it be more useful when we first tidy up our own Lebensraum, ie Europe, and kick out all the alien freaks before we think about expanding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd
    We cannot healthily expand and export our racial, ethnical, cultural and spiritual notions if the core unit is not healthy first.
    Wise words, and our core unit is far from being healthy right now, in fact, it is about to fall to pieces. It is not the time to talk about expanding, but how we can heal our core unit.


    On a general viewpoint this expanding spirit is one of our problems. We dont care much for our surroundings, because we always think that we can just move to another place. The destruction of the earth is the same, we just think we can one day fly to another planet and all our problems would be solved. The other side of the medal is that we managed to damage our planet heavily within just 150 years, if we one day reach the level that we actually can fly to another planet, we will manage the same result within 10 years.
    I for myself think the expanding spirit should be tamed, at least so far that we start to care for the branch on which we sit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    Wouldnt it be more useful when we first tidy up our own Lebensraum, ie Europe, and kick out all the alien freaks before we think about expanding?
    Europe is not "our" Lebensraum, but yes, we will have to do that first, nevertheless it is always a good thing to think about what comes after.
    It seems a feminine trait to not give thought to anything that is not right before your nose, but real men like to think ahead, and we can think about more than just one topic too .

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    On a general viewpoint this expanding spirit is one of our problems. We dont care much for our surroundings, because we always think that we can just move to another place. The destruction of the earth is the same, we just think we can one day fly to another planet and all our problems would be solved.
    That is the Faustian (Germanic) spirit, e.g. the Jews embrace the end of the world and simply hope for an after life.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    The other side of the medal is that we managed to damage our planet heavily within just 150 years, if we one day reach the level that we actually can fly to another planet, we will manage the same result within 10 years.
    Who knows
    And the "damage to our earth" might be not as severe as you think, once there were far more hostile environmental conditions for us on this planet.

    Even more so, the environment does not benefit from our abdication of expansion, because then simply some other people will take the available Lebensraum, it always has been this way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger
    Europe is not "our" Lebensraum, but yes, we will have to do that first, nevertheless it is always a good thing to think about what comes after.
    It seems a feminine trait to not give thought to anything that is not right before your nose, but real men like to think ahead, and we can think about more than just one topic too .
    Since when are men able to multi-tasking? j/k
    Anyway, the 'feminine' trait that you think you've spotted is just a placing of priorities. We should first tidy up our homelands and preferably at the same time try to heal our core, with this done a lot of problems will just vanish, that men believe to solve with expanding. But this cant solve the problems we face WITHIN our homelands today. If we keep the option for expansion in mind or worse, place it first before the other necessities, the time we would need to prepare this might very well be the time needed to finally destroy our core. Then you have a handful men who are still willing to expand, but there is noone left to actually do the expansion. Does not help us as a people one bit. As I said, our first priority is the branch on which we sit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger
    That is the Faustian (Germanic) spirit, e.g. the Jews embrace the end of the world and simply hope for an after life.
    Isnt 'searching your well-being in expansion' the same? Embrace the downfall of the branch on which you sit and hope for the solution of all problems with expansion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jäger
    Who knows
    And the "damage to our earth" might be not as severe as you think, once there were far more hostile environmental conditions for us on this planet.

    Even more so, the environment does not benefit from our abdication of expansion, because then simply some other people will take the available Lebensraum, it always has been this way.
    The problem in your logic is that there is no 'available' Lebensraum. The earth is polluted with more than 6bio (in digits: 6.785.782.500 + 2,9/sec) people, every square meter is already inhabited, in China people need to pile already. The space we have here is not at all to take as granted. An expansion in any direction would require war. For a war we need people who are convinced in the requirement of the expansion. At this point we return to the requirement of a healthy core unit, where should these people else come from? The handful people here or other forums of this kind? Please, wake up. This war would be sooner over again than we actually have formed an army.

    And looking at the number above expansion should be not our problem at this point in time, for expansion we would need more people, and when you ask me, the world population needs a drastic reduction, 2/3 at minimum, better 4/5. This earth has only limited resources, and we destroy it for our momentary needs. Where is your foresight here?

    This overpopulation is the core problem of environment destruction and it is the core problem to our destruction as a people, with this breeding rats unhindered they will just wipe us off the face of the world within the next 20 years. The next 1bio will be the end of civilisation, how it will look like then the movie "Soylent Green" had shown in 1973 in drastic pictures. This will be our future if we dont solve the global overpopulation problem, including our own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    If we keep the option for expansion in mind or worse, place it first before the other necessities, the time we would need to prepare this might very well be the time needed to finally destroy our core.
    No one is placing it first, but merely keeping it in mind is a good thing, not a bad thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    Isnt 'searching your well-being in expansion' the same?
    No, one is earthly the other is theologically, one does not necessitate the destruction of earth, the other does, etc..

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    Embrace the downfall of the branch on which you sit and hope for the solution of all problems with expansion?
    Expansion by definition does not allow the downfall of the branch you sit on, because we will keep sitting on it, if we would leave it, it wouldn't be expansion anymore, but merely moving, an exodus.
    This is not the topic right now, however, it might be necessary in a distant future, because nothing is for eternity .

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    The problem in your logic is that there is no 'available' Lebensraum.
    That's why it will be difficult, and why it doesn't hurt to think about ways to achieve it.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    The space we have here is not at all to take as granted.
    Exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    An expansion in any direction would require war.
    Most likely.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    For a war we need people who are convinced in the requirement of the expansion. At this point we return to the requirement of a healthy core unit, where should these people else come from?
    You are arguing with ghosts, no one has denied the need to create a healthy, and above all powerful, base before expanding.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    And looking at the number above expansion should be not our problem at this point in time ...
    As I already said, my thoughts, and those of any thinking man, are not confined to the current point of time.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    ... for expansion we would need more people, and when you ask me, the world population needs a drastic reduction, 2/3 at minimum, better 4/5.
    This will depend on the situation, however, restricting our growth artificially is not a good idea, let's better hope others will reduce their numbers voluntarily

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    This earth has only limited resources, and we destroy it for our momentary needs. Where is your foresight here?
    The current handling of resources is nothing which is static, we will change that according to our best interest. It has little to do with the current topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    This overpopulation is the core problem of environment destruction and it is the core problem to our destruction as a people, with this breeding rats unhindered they will just wipe us off the face of the world within the next 20 years.
    How do you want to hinder them?
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