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    German Patriots Turn Selves In For 'Holocaust Doubting'

    Translated from the German by J M Damon.
    5-25-9

    Kevin is one of several young German patriots who recently filed criminal complaints against themselves for "Holocaust Doubting,".

    As the struggle for human rights passes to a younger generation, the Federal Republic or "OMF" ("Organizational Form of a Modality of Foreign Domination" as its founders called it in 1948 so as to avoid the term "puppet government") is becoming increasingly desperate in its repressive measures.


    Nationalist sentiment is increasing not just in Germany but throughout Europe.
    From Kevin Käther
    5-25-9

    To my dear comrades in the struggle for a free Germany in a free Europe.

    The appeal of my self-accusation trial begins on 26 May.

    The corpus delicti of my original show trial was my sending copies of Germar Rudolf's Lectures on the Holocaust through the mail.

    At the end of that trial I was sentenced to eight months in prison, even though I provided proof that the contents of Rudolf's book are factual.

    All my evidentiary motions were summarily rejected, as is inevitably the case in inquisitorial trials.

    In Germany, we no longer have court trials conducted according to the established rules of a nation of laws.

    Today, we have tribunals that follow the principles of the "Holy Inquisition," or Nuremberg show trials..

    In response to the convictions of freedom fighters Germar Rudolf, Ernst Zündel, Sylvia Stolz and Horst Mahler, I sent copies of Rudolf's book to Lea Rosh, Wolfgang Benz and Ernst Nolte in November 2007 and filed a legal complaint against myself for the "criminal act" of "Doubting Holocaust."

    This was my first contribution to the national effort of demolishing the historical lies that have devastated our country for three generations.

    As a true German, I feel obligated to assist and protect my fatherland and help it find its way back to the path of integrity.

    Horst Mahler, who is 73 years old, was sentenced to 13 years in prison for the nonviolent offense of disseminating politically incorrect ideals.

    This amounts to a life sentence for a truly Orwellian crime.

    Mahler's sentence illustrates better than anything else the imperative to struggle against the lies of Germany's vicious enemies.

    What is at stake here is not just an abstract struggle for human rights, but the very survival of our nation.

    Phony guilt has been inculcated into our Volk and outrageous lies are killing the soul of the German people.

    As a German I have resorted to our inalienable right of self-defense in opposing these devastating lies of our sworn enemies.

    It is an honor for me and my comrades to state the truth on behalf of our country and to go to prison if need be.

    Our descendants will thank us for what we are doing.

    The following dates have been set for my upcoming appeal trial:

    First date: 26 May 2009 at 13:00 O'clock, Courtroom 820, Tiergarten District Court.

    Second date: 09 June 2009 at 09:00 O'clock, same courtroom.

    Let me add that no act of intimidation is too perfidious for the Berlin District Attorney.

    In the course of my defense in my first trial I was indicted on additional charges for including empirical facts in my evidentiary motions, the mere mentioning of which is a criminal offense.

    It is now a crime to defend oneself in court!

    This gives a glimpse into the infinite nature of official repression and injustice in Germany!

    It is still more evidence, if more evidence is needed, that "Holocaust" jurisprudence is purest tyranny.

    The defendant is allowed no defense at all -- all attempts are automatically converted into additional criminal charges!

    Our justice system has abolished itself and mutated into an immense criminal enterprise.

    I pray that God will have mercy on these high-and-mighty despots in black robes.

    They are going to need it!

    I am looking forward to a very lively Tuesday!

    With comradely greetings,

    Kevin Käther
    Berlin, den 24.05.09
    http://www.rense.com/general85/germany.htm

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    I admire Kevin Käther for what he does. I wonder, if it wouldn't have been more effective, if he distributed flyers with the message to people on the street? But maybe then the punishment would have been even bigger.

    If the Holocaust story was exposed as a fraud, it would change everything in the minds of the people, it would be an earth-shattering event. But I don't know how it can ever be done, unless Jewish power in the United States was overthrown or fading and I don't see that happen for the next 100 years unless there will be a revolution or the United States disintegrate somehow. The majority of people just go with the flow and believe in everything they are told by the mass media, and until Jewish power in the United States crumbles, the mass media everywhere in the Western hemisphere will continue to affirm the Holocaust story. The most that, in my opinion, can be done, with the help of the Internet, is to reach the minority of people who cares about it. Hopefully this minority will derive additional motivation from it for the preservation of their people and for resisting the Jewish world order.

    I love to see how American internet activists get the message out in public forums and comment sections of web magazines and blogs. At first the administrators still believe they want free speech for all ideas, as long as this free speech is practised with civility. But when the Holocaust deniers and anti-Semites come and their arguments are so terribly convincing, the administrators invariably decide to shut down the comment section, thus exposing that there is no free speech even in the United States, if you understand it as a real free market of ideas. In Germany, no forum can tolerate Holocaust denial in the first place or it would be shut down. But there are still some things that internet activists manage to communicate indirectly and I hope they have an effect at least for some readers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quo vadis View Post
    I admire Kevin Käther for what he does. I wonder, if it wouldn't have been more effective, if he distributed flyers with the message to people on the street? But maybe then the punishment would have been even bigger.
    I suppose then he'd get a penalty for instigating the populace against democracy or something alone those lines.

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    I wonder what would happen if it happened on the mass level. If a big German nationalist movement of people would turn themselves in for Holocaust doubting, and there wouldn't be enough place in prisons to put them all. They would probably profit of the situation and fine them instead, isn't it?

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    In Germany, no forum can tolerate Holocaust denial in the first place or it would be shut down.
    Well they can certainly tolerate Anti-Americanism! I can't remember how many times President Bush was called Hitler....that should have had NS rejoicing, no? I hope you get the ridiculousness of my point! Besides, don't you think that the present German government would want all view points discussed, or is it the case of our ideas are more powerful than yours because we control the means do disseminate them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quo vadis View Post
    I admire Kevin Käther for what he does. I wonder, if it wouldn't have been more effective, if he distributed flyers with the message to people on the street? But maybe then the punishment would have been even bigger.

    If the Holocaust story was exposed as a fraud, it would change everything in the minds of the people, it would be an earth-shattering event. But I don't know how it can ever be done, unless Jewish power in the United States was overthrown or fading and I don't see that happen for the next 100 years unless there will be a revolution or the United States disintegrate somehow. The majority of people just go with the flow and believe in everything they are told by the mass media, and until Jewish power in the United States crumbles, the mass media everywhere in the Western hemisphere will continue to affirm the Holocaust story. The most that, in my opinion, can be done, with the help of the Internet, is to reach the minority of people who cares about it. Hopefully this minority will derive additional motivation from it for the preservation of their people and for resisting the Jewish world order.

    I love to see how American internet activists get the message out in public forums and comment sections of web magazines and blogs. At first the administrators still believe they want free speech for all ideas, as long as this free speech is practised with civility. But when the Holocaust deniers and anti-Semites come and their arguments are so terribly convincing, the administrators invariably decide to shut down the comment section, thus exposing that there is no free speech even in the United States, if you understand it as a real free market of ideas. In Germany, no forum can tolerate Holocaust denial in the first place or it would be shut down. But there are still some things that internet activists manage to communicate indirectly and I hope they have an effect at least for some readers.
    They have trained you well though.. I have asked some questions to some of my German friends, and its an immediate debate stopper. The level of irrational anger and accusations are so weird that I have given up any debate about ww2 altogether. They seem to want to live with a bowed head in self hatred and loathing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Siebenbürgerin View Post
    I wonder what would happen if it happened on the mass level. If a big German nationalist movement of people would turn themselves in for Holocaust doubting, and there wouldn't be enough place in prisons to put them all. They would probably profit of the situation and fine them instead, isn't it?
    System would break down, but its not going to happen. Most Germans are convinced that the history served to them about the knights of infinite goodness' fight and victory over the ultimate evil German sith people is true to the letter. Nationalist movement knows this and realize that such an action would totally destroy their movement and everything they worked for.

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    Wait a minute. I knew Holocaust denial is illegal in Germany, but Holocaust doubting? Is it illegal to have doubts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resist View Post
    Wait a minute. I knew Holocaust denial is illegal in Germany, but Holocaust doubting? Is it illegal to have doubts?
    Even acknowledging the Holocuast, but doubting its official number figure is illegal in Germany and Austria - punishable by up to 5 years in Germany and up to 20 years in Austria.

    So, yes - if you said: "I believe the Holocaust happened but six million sounds far-fetched ... I rather think it is perhaps 1-2 million" ... then that would be illegal. And if you're a German or Austrian national, it doesn't matter where you said it, it is a law with universal jurisdiction.

    Which is BTW also a mistake many people make - they think they can deny/doubt (parts of) the Holocaust whilst they are abroad, but in truth it doesn't matter. If you're a German or Austrian national anywhere, or a foreign national in Austria or Germany - you're committing a heinous crime by doing so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Even acknowledging the Holocuast, but doubting its official number figure is illegal in Germany and Austria - punishable by up to 5 years in Germany and up to 20 years in Austria.

    So, yes - if you said: "I believe the Holocaust happened but six million sounds far-fetched ... I rather think it is perhaps 1-2 million" ... then that would be illegal. And if you're a German or Austrian national, it doesn't matter where you said it, it is a law with universal jurisdiction.

    Which is BTW also a mistake many people make - they think they can deny/doubt (parts of) the Holocaust whilst they are abroad, but in truth it doesn't matter. If you're a German or Austrian national anywhere, or a foreign national in Austria or Germany - you're committing a heinous crime by doing so.
    "Thoughtcrime does not entail death. Thoughtcrime IS death."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Even acknowledging the Holocuast, but doubting its official number figure is illegal in Germany and Austria - punishable by up to 5 years in Germany and up to 20 years in Austria.

    So, yes - if you said: "I believe the Holocaust happened but six million sounds far-fetched ... I rather think it is perhaps 1-2 million" ... then that would be illegal. And if you're a German or Austrian national, it doesn't matter where you said it, it is a law with universal jurisdiction.

    Which is BTW also a mistake many people make - they think they can deny/doubt (parts of) the Holocaust whilst they are abroad, but in truth it doesn't matter. If you're a German or Austrian national anywhere, or a foreign national in Austria or Germany - you're committing a heinous crime by doing so.
    You don't have to be a German or Austrian national actually. If you deny or question the Holocaust and they can proof it affected Germany or Austria in some way (like addressing a Holocaust denial site to a German audience), they can still prosecute you under German or Austrian law. They did that to a guy from Australia.

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