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    Quote Originally Posted by Hierwend View Post
    While I like Catholics just fine(if I were of the Christian persuasion I would be Catholic, or Anglican it is a toss up) it is rather typical of Americans to place a higher value on Protestants then Catholics. I will admit though that that conclusion is based on liberal PC infused college courses on American history that could be distorted, I've never looked into the matter deeper.

    I don't see anything wrong with an Irishman supporting Celtic Nationalism. I think there is a lot we could learn feven Irish nationalism has gone multiculturalism and you see srom them.
    Nothing wrong with the Irish being a little proud but ome of them searching for non-existent roots from the Iberian peninsula. Is it too hard to admit for the Irish that they probably (and definitely) are related the most to the English and Scots, and the remainder of the Germanic world?

    There's no other way to explain this other than Catholicism and that respective connection with France and Spain. The Protestant Irish on the other hand, see themselves as loyal subjects of the Crown and not a single one would make up the claim that he descended from ''Ibero-Celts''.

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    How are you supposed to date with purity standards like that? If the girl looks fully white and germanic and the their parents do too then that's white enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatest View Post
    Nothing wrong with the Irish being a little proud but ome of them searching for non-existent roots from the Iberian peninsula. Is it too hard to admit for the Irish that they probably (and definitely) are related the most to the English and Scots, and the remainder of the Germanic world?

    Well, I think the "nationalist" Left in Ireland are desperately trying to find a way to convince the Irish people that they are somehow racially not even part of the white European family. These traitors clearly have a multicultural agenda.


    On the other hand, I think the whole "Celto-Iberian" thing also has a lot to do with Portuguese and Spanish right-wing nationalists desperately trying to establish white credentials.


    Whatever the relationship is between the Irish and Spanish, there is at least one difference between them in that one of them has had an infusion of Norse blood whereas the other took in some North African blood. For some reason some Spaniards and Portuguese do not want celebrate their true Latin heritage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torch_Bearer View Post
    Well, I think the "nationalist" Left in Ireland are desperately trying to find a way to convince the Irish people that they are somehow racially not even part of the white European family. These traitors clearly have a multicultural agenda.

    I would not be so iffy if the Irish were claiming a relation to the Breton. But it is another thing when an Irishman claims he is more related to the average Portuguese and Spaniard, as opposed to his counterpart in England and Scotland.

    The Iberian Peninsula is home to the phrase ''blue blood''. Blue Blood was not a inbreeding condition (as it is referred to now, all of the sudden) but rather the Spaniards who were of unmixed descent and did not possess Moorish blood.

    One can see the problem with the Irish claiming a close relation to the average Spaniard and Portuguese, who are significantly non-white.

    On the other hand, I think the whole "Celto-Iberian" thing also has a lot to do with Portuguese and Spanish right-wing nationalists desperately trying to establish white credentials.
    Except those nationalists are by no means Celtic. It's much like the man who leads the Padania (Northern Italian Separatist) movement in Italy, Umberto Bossi, who is a former Communist and non-white (defiantly not Quasi-Germanic as the Northern Italians sometimes claim themselves to be!).


    Whatever the relationship is between the Irish and Spanish, there is at least one difference between them in that one of them has had an infusion of Norse blood whereas the other took in some North African blood. For some reason some Spaniards and Portuguese do not want celebrate their true Latin heritage.
    Precisely. I've never heard of this Ibero-Celtic thing until the past 3-5 years. It seems like a rather new concept to me. Not only that, it shows that the Spaniards have an identity problem.


    1. Spaniards still haven't gotten over their own incompetence and failure in the New World.

    2. Spaniards want to be a part of the Germanic / Celtic Race, and lay claim to Britain and Ireland's accomplishments. And of course want access to our women (I shudder at the thought).

    It's the classical self-hate syndrome that has existed since the beginning of time.


    When the Parthians took over the Seleucid (Greek) Empire, the Parthians rewrote history and laid claim on the Seleucid successes, they even went going as far as claiming they were 100% biologically descended from the same Seleucids!.

    Or a more modern example would be the contemporary population in Greece:

    "The whole of Greece seemed to me a cut-price theme park of broken marble, a place where you were harangued in a high-minded way about Ancient Greek culture while some swarthy little person picked your pocket . . . The Greeks were not Greek, but rather the illiterate descendants of Slavs and Albanian fishermen, who spoke a debased Greek dialect and had little interest in the broken columns and temples except as places to graze their sheep . . . the Greeks struck me as being more xenophobic than the French, and more ill-tempered and irrational, in a country more backward than Croatia . . . Greece is the degraded fringe of Europe, basically a peasant society, fortunate in its ruins and its selective memory . . . More than any other place I had seen so far on the Mediterranean, Greece was purely a tourist destination, a theme park of shattered marble and broken statues, and garbled history."
    -- The Pillars of Hercules, A Grand Tour of The Mediterranean, by Paul Theroux, pp. 314-316, 322, G. P. Putnam's Sons (1995)

    It amuses me, each and every single time, when the Greeks claim they descend from the Macedonians and the Greek city-states. Hell a Bavarian tavern drinker looks more like Socrates than your average ''Grecomen''.

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    I guess because I'm distantly related to an Irishman (Before my ancestors even came here in the 17th Century), and some French Canadian I'm not Germanic or white.

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    This brings up someething very interesting that I've noticed. Most "white" Americans even ones with Amerind ancestory and such look very Nordic. They fit rather close the "idealized" Aryan concept of Nazis. With the exeption of maybe New Yorkers or certain regions known to be non-white. Even the Jews here look strongly Germanic. Yet I see pictures of Europeans, even Germans and such and many of them have an Arab/Jewish look or a very non-Nordic type look. I'd say the only exeption would be places like Sweden that seem to be relatively pure.

    I have been thinking about this for a while and it perplexes me. I can only guess that Nordics are more likely to adventure out and move to America back in the day. An American of German descent looks Nordic. Go to Germany and only about half of them look Nordic.

    I wish I could just copy paste pictures here.

    Bavarian farmer girls. Look at the girl on the far left. She looks Greek or something. You see some of these traits in America but its not really very common.
    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/lifesty...ent_899382.htm

    Even the one on the right, even all of them none of them look strongly Germanic.
    More German girls from Germany. Several of these girls in the U.S. wouldn't be considered Germanic:
    http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/a...in_426245a.jpg

    I counted at least 8 out of 22 that would definatley not pass for Germanic in the United States. I have Native American ancestory, French ancestory, Irish etc. and look far more Germanic than these actual Germans.

    A statue of idealized Germanic features:
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/...419029,00.html

    Here's one from Germany that looks pretty German which is about what American Germanics look like:
    http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1155/...0af5f474c1.jpg

    as far as why all these girl pictures is the only thing that shows up in the search other than pictures of German flags and German maps.

    This is what we consider a native american in the U.S. This guy is mixed, but looks more Germanic than these Greeko Arab French looking people from Germany:
    http://www.wells.edu/images4/kevin_white1a.jpg

    I've also noticed some posters on this board in their pics they look like they come from a more primitive pre-Germanic stock.

    Now here's a clearly unwhite native american:
    http://a869.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...bb4fc21ddc.jpg

    An even less white looking German model "Vanillia Eischeid"

    http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/8...d234gerth4.jpg

    Maybe I have some bias but even the pure blooded native while looking like an Asian still looks closer to a German than these Arab types walking around Europe. As said I think even a good number of people on this board from Europe don't even look Germanic in the slightest. Others look like some cross.

    At any rate it doesn't matter to me much. I would think that people would have to form into communities and the community would have to set its own standards for who can join and who can't. Two different groups of people with Germanic heritage can be different genetically and both consider themselves Germanic. As far as if you really want to preserve the Germanic ideal (as in Nazi) you would need some kind of breeding program, because as you can see communities are mixed now and continuing to get more mixed.

    It seems like most of these mixed Germans are mixed with the Italian Semetic/Etruscan mix which is common among ethnic French and Jews. It dates back pretty far. You could be pure German 500 years back in your family and have a lot of this blood in you. I do see it in America but it just isn't as common, especially in more isolated small towns and such. And for some reasson Americans tend to think Germans all look like the Nazi ideal so anyone that looked like that would be considered white but not Germanic even if they were half German half English. Many people here would say I don't look Germanic because I'm not blond and blue eyed lol

    Like is this girl ethnically German? She looks like a native American but somehow is German??

    http://www.globaldatingrevolution.co...erman-girl.jpg

    Mohawk Indian cheif:
    http://www.cmhg-phmc.gc.ca/cmh/book_...21_ss02_03.jpg

    I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, but I really am surprised at how non-Germanic many Europeans look. It is rather ironic that many parts of America look far more Nordic or Aryan than parts of Europe especially when we are supposed to be more mixed over here! I can only guess that maybe the native genes and such are more recessive than the arab type genes of europe. Of course as you can see by some of the pics some of the Eastern Natives (like the Mohawk picture given- yes thats a 100% native) they come from stone age European settlers and later Vikings. The western Indians are mostly pure (East) Asian and most groups fall as a mixture in between.

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    Yeah, you're absolutely right. While I have dark brown hair, however, I'm almost 100% Anglo-American with only distant Irish and French relatives.

    I've been to England, and even the disgusting muslims and indians aside, the English in London especially, were far darker than myself. Then however, if I go to Hastings, I see plenty of people that look like me.

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    Genome more important than photos

    The content of this thread illustrates the futility of determining one's heritage by their looks. Posting photos is a waste of time because we don't know anything about those people and we cannot ask questions of the people in the photos to determine their ancestry.

    What matters is the genetic content of their genome (genetic code) and that will be the yardstick used in the future—the scientific examination of a person's genome.

    For now we can say that if a person claims any non-white ancestry, or that if there is any evidence of non-white ancestry in his medical records or family linage, or if he qualifies for Israeli citizenship, then he is non-white.

    That means that David Lane was wrong about who is White because a person could "look white", "act white", and "fight white", and still have a genome that reveals that he is non-white!

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    Well my whole concept of race has shifted and I believe there needs to be a folkscommunity that you must actively be a member of to actually be a race, and that community sets its standards. Otherwise we are just dealing with ancestory or genetics. Of course we need to know who is genetically or ancesterally fit for our communities when we form them. But I guess different people have different opinions.

    I mean a lot of these Europeans are natives, but they come different stock which is exeedingly rare in the United States. Your Brunns, your etruscans, khazars etc. I don't know if maybe it had to do with racist immigration policies the U.S. used to have or if Nordics were just more likely to come here.

    I'd say as well as far as race and folks community there is good reason that with the exeption of right now when we have to rebuild and take in outsiders, most people should be born into these groups. Otherwise you can't really know them. You get full of moles, traitors, imposters, even genuine people with bad family lineage. Even then you would have to set standards. Someone born mentally retarded could not be a "citizen" of the folk community, or anyone born who has the ancestory but doesn't meet minimal criteria. But yeah you definately need to weigh in instincts (like criminality etc.), and other mental traits along with the physical.

    The other thing I noticed like here in the U.S. if you go to a rural area then you are also dealing with basically 100% Nordics. The more populated areas the white people become less Nordic. The only one exeption are kentucky hillbillys who have a lot of black irish and native american in them. Some of them have black eyes and hair and a brunn or mixed look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
    Well my whole concept of race has shifted and I believe there needs to be a folkscommunity that you must actively be a member of to actually be a race, and that community sets its standards. Otherwise we are just dealing with ancestory or genetics. Of course we need to know who is genetically or ancesterally fit for our communities when we form them. But I guess different people have different opinions.
    The genetics and ancestry comes first, the folkish community stems from that—not the other way around. In other words, the scientific establishment sets the conservative standard by evaluating genomes; those who meet that standard are permitted entry and citizenship. They will then form the folkish community.


    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
    I'd say as well as far as race and folks community there is good reason that with the exeption of right now when we have to rebuild and take in outsiders, most people should be born into these groups. Otherwise you can't really know them. You get full of moles, traitors, imposters, even genuine people with bad family lineage.

    Don't forget people with non-white ancestry who try to sneak in.


    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
    The other thing I noticed like here in the U.S. if you go to a rural area then you are also dealing with basically 100% Nordics. The more populated areas the white people become less Nordic. The only one exeption are kentucky hillbillys who have a lot of black irish and native american in them. Some of them have black eyes and hair and a brunn or mixed look.
    How did you notice it? Was it by your subjective evaluation or were there any scientific methods used? How could you possibly know that the "kentucky hillbillys have a lot of "black irish" "native american" in them?

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