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    Norse Mythology Was Based on Real Locations

    I didn't know where to put this topic, so i'll put it here in this part of the Forum as it is for mysteries.

    Anyway, basically the following is my research on the locations of mythical places in Norse mythology. I believe they were all modled on real locations and were not imaginary/spiritual concepts.

    Alfheim


    Home of the Light Elves, who had pale skin ''fairer to look upon than the sun” (Gylfaginning, 17).

    According to Ynglinga Saga, a work written by Snorri Sturluson in 1225, Alfheim is described as “the name of the land between the Raumelfr and the Gautelfr”. Raumelfr and Gautelf correspond to two rivers on the borders of Sweden and Norway.

    Álfheimr is a province of Sweden, bordering Norway. Old stone constuctions, attributed to the working of Light Elves which still lie there.

    Conclusion


    Alfheim was based on this Scandinavian place, on the borders of Norway and Sweden.

    Asgard

    Asgard was the home of the Norse Gods (the Æsir).

    Asgard is stated in Eddic literature as having lied on an Island:

    How call they the isle,
    where all the gods lay
    .”

    - Fáfnismál, 14

    So Asgard was an Island.

    It also lied in the north according to the Eddic literature, near Alfheim.

    Thus is can be concluded Asgard was an Island which lied in the North Sea or Baltic Sea.

    According to the Prose Edda, the Norse Goddess Idunn is said to have guarded apples in a garden on Asgard:

    “…guard in her chest of ash those apples which
    the gods must taste whensoever they grow old


    - Gylfaginning, 26

    This resembles the Garden of Hesperides in Greek myth, where fabulous apples of Hera grew.

    The Garden of Hesperides sat in the mythical northern Island Hyperborea, in the North Sea according to ancient Greek literature (Apollodorus - The Libarary of Greek Mythology).

    Conclusion

    So Asgard lied on an Island in the North Sea. My personal belief is that Asgard was based on Shetland.

    Svartalheim

    The home of the black skinned dwarves and dark Elves lied in the ''southern quarter of the earth'' according to Eddic Literature. They had skin ''blacker than pitch” (Gylfaginning, 17).

    Conclusion

    Simply, the dark skinned dwarves and elves of Norse myth were based on African pgymy populations of Congo. Snorri in his Prologue of his Prose Edda, makes it clear he knew of such geographical locations:

    “…the southern quarter (of the earth)…
    is hot…the second part from west to north…
    is so cold…”

    - Prologue, 2

    Clearly the southern quarter was africa (hot), while the north was northern europe (cold).

    Others i may add later....

    hope some may find this interesting...feel free to criticise if you disagree.

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    Among the little ones, there is one gap I would like to mention about.
    The myths portray the dwarfs most of the time as masterful craftsmen of the mountains, who are extremely well skilled in metallurgy and handcrafts, there are actually many occasions when the gods themselves get their tools and weapons from the dwarfs. If we draw this further it should mean that the old population of Congo should have had a rich culture with important tradition in metallurgy and craftsmanship, which gives me a paradox if I look at the actual culture of Congo. Even if once sustained, such an important tradition in metallurgy (that would inspire other cultures' mythology) could only vanish in thousands of years. So my conclusion is that it simply does not fit in the picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrodnand View Post
    Among the little ones, there is one gap I would like to mention about.
    The myths portray the dwarfs most of the time as masterful craftsmen of the mountains, who are extremely well skilled in metallurgy and handcrafts, there are actually many occasions when the gods themselves get their tools and weapons from the dwarfs. If we draw this further it should mean that the old population of Congo should have had a rich culture with important tradition in metallurgy and craftsmanship, which gives me a paradox if I look at the actual culture of Congo. Even if once sustained, such an important tradition in metallurgy (that would inspire other cultures' mythology) could only vanish in thousands of years. So my conclusion is that it simply does not fit in the picture.
    The Pygmies have a very basic, primitive way of life and culture now but they had (like many other Africans) superb technology in ancient times.

    You should read Technology of the Gods By David Childress, which details the sophisticated technology of older times. Electricity was in Ancient Egypt and other parts of Africa more then 5,000 years ago, as well as on Minoan Crete and in other parts of Europe. Better weaponry and tools were also constructed during these times.


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    I still cant see how the pygmies would make it to become part of the very north mythology...

    Anyway, some opposing concerning Asgard and other locations:

    Asgard: An island in the north sea, right, but not Shetland, it was Iceland (which would make sense as we talk about an icelandic myth) see images attached.

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    And where is the rainbow bridge bifrost that goes to this island? The myth may have influenced the names of these places rather than the other way around.

    I'm quite sure the myth is based on real history and philosophy. Yet after being retold 1,000 times has lost so much accuracy. That's why you can't put much weight on the myth. It's like that game where you whisper something in someone's ear and they pass it to the next person and so on then it comes back to you as something completely different.

    That's why my personal goal is to extract what is useful (at least to me) from the myth and rebuild something coherent from it rather than focusing too much on contradictory scraps of history.

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