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    Arrow The Divine Right of Kings

    To justify absolute rule, seventeenth-century thinker Jacques-Benigne Bossuet developed the theory of the Divine Right of Kings, which expanded on traditional notions. According to his theory kings are chosen by God to rule absolutely, and are therefore accountable for their actions to no one but God.

    Do you believe that some people are divinely chosen as leaders (whether by the Christian God or otherwise), and should thus be given absolute power?

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    Post Re: The Divine Right of Kings

    No, no, and no. I oppose hereditary monarchy, absolutism and unquestioned authority regardless of circumstance.

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    Post Re: The Divine Right of Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by Stríbog
    No, no, and no. I oppose hereditary monarchy, absolutism and unquestioned authority regardless of circumstance.
    Even though hereditary monarchy has proved to be the most stable government over the course of history? Of course, the system works better with the proper checks and balances; I personally oppose unchecked absolutism, though I waver about whether leaders are divinely chosen.

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    Post Re: The Divine Right of Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by Stríbog
    No, no, and no. I oppose hereditary monarchy, absolutism and unquestioned authority regardless of circumstance.
    I completely agree with this statement. I tried to give you rep points Stribog...but you've been moderated

    To be in favor of a system such as that is like being led around blindly...as if you were in a herd of sheep, bleeting and chewing grass, completely oblivious of the corruption around you. We must question all authority, for with seeking answers we are better able to judge if what we are being subjected to is agreeable or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Abby Normal
    Even though hereditary monarchy has proved to be the most stable government over the course of history?
    I think the reason it has been so stable is because people don't see any good in opposition...The have the sheep mentality. To overthrow a King isn't like impeaching a president...It's all-out mutinous rebellion. Most people would rather just go along with whatever is instituted, if they do not have any choice in the matter. Why fight against something you cannot change?
    "Nature! We are surrounded and embraced by her:
    powerless to separate ourselves from her, and powerless to penetrate beyond her.

    Without asking, or warning, she snatches us up into her circling dance, and whirls us on until we are tired, and drop from her arms." - Goethe

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    Post Re: The Divine Right of Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by TisaAnne
    I tried to give you rep points Stribog...but you've been moderated
    LOL, about that... I've been away for quite a while and I guess the rules became stricter during my absence.

    Monarchies have NOT been any more stable, it's just that change comes all at once in a bloody revolution. Witness the English Civil War, the French Revolution, the Russian Revolution. Monarchs usually do more harm than good by living in ridiculous luxury while the peasants are mired in squalor and abject poverty. The monarchs either are unaware of these conditions or actively support them. By attempting to cling to outdated systems, monarchs often give undeserved credibility to their radical opposition, as was the case with the Tsar and Lenin.

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    Post Re: The Divine Right of Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by Abby Normal
    Do you believe that some people are divinely chosen as leaders (whether by the Christian God or otherwise), and should thus be given absolute power?
    Well I don't believe in giving anyone absolute power, as I have said. I do think that there may have been certain mystical forces in history, so to speak, that perhaps favored certain people to become leaders, but not that some deity intervened to place a certain person on the throne. I doubt the existence of a supreme God, though I do believe in the existence of powers beyond what we can see.

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    Post Re: The Divine Right of Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by Abby Normal
    Do you believe that some people are divinely chosen as leaders (whether by the Christian God or otherwise), and should thus be given absolute power?
    No, but I think the general populace should be made to believe that.

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    Post Re: The Divine Right of Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by Abby Normal
    Do you believe that some people are divinely chosen as leaders (whether by the Christian God or otherwise), and should thus be given absolute power?
    Indeed.
    To be honest, I don't see the result being any worse than our current debased western society which is crumbling into dust after centuries of mis-managment by a fundamentally flawed system of so-called "democracy" based on onerous "Enlightenment" values.

    At least history has given us some benevolent, progressive rulers whereas democracy seems to be distinguished for giving us consistently bad governments. Also, as Stribog will no doubt be aware - the concept of Divine Right to Rule and Monarchy is wholly in accord with my religious convictions

    "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's"

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    Post Re: The Divine Right of Kings

    Milesian, you do realize that the traditional Catholic concept of Monarchy was based on the notion of "divine grace" not "divine right"?

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    Wink Re: The Divine Right of Kings

    Quote Originally Posted by Pushkin
    Milesian, you do realize that the traditional Catholic concept of Monarchy was based on the notion of "divine grace" not "divine right"?
    Um..yeah...it's all good. Anyway, when I become Pope I'll make one or two changes, granted....

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