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    About the religious: I don't deny the subtleties of borders and the fluency of the human spirit to interchangeably develop similar cultures.

    I do not ascribe Aryan beliefs. To me, it is just another form of Judeofascism. Human behaviour is...

    I know that the Scandinavians moved from the south, but that was before the invasions began. One doesn't invade a land unpopulated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodskarl Dubhgall
    About the religious: I don't deny the subtleties of borders and the fluency of the human spirit to interchangeably develop similar cultures.

    I do not ascribe Aryan beliefs. To me, it is just another form of Judeofascism. Human behaviour is...

    I know that the Scandinavians moved from the south, but that was before the invasions began. One doesn't invade a land unpopulated.
    Moody replies; You miss the point - the Aryans moved around as you admit - from north to south and vice versa; from east to west and vice versa. The invasions that left their imprint on history are only the most recent; many invasions have suffered the fate of Atlantis and have become submerged.
    I personally believe that the Aryans migrated east to the Americas long before the mongolians did, for example ['White Gods'].
    Also we know that climates have changed drastically within the historical period let alone the pre-historical.

    Similarity is one thing, but direct descent is another; we see lines of direct descent in the Indo-Europeans;



    Again, this is not about 'beliefs', but facts.

    I am not sure what you mean by "Judeofascism" though, although the Zionists have been described as "Jewish Fascists". But then 'fascist' is a very loose coinage - don't see how its relevant here.
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    Alright chap, I refuse to argue with you about paranormal subjects. Go back to watching the X-Files.

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    Kings and birthrights in Europe thesedays? Personally I find it disgusting.

    Who would decide what family would be royal? What could an anacronistic aristocratic order do, that National-Revolutionaries cannot?

    Birthright always leads to corruption sooner or later, sterilizes a country, and creates a class society. Nothing benefitial for Europe, that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodskarl Dubhgall
    Alright chap, I refuse to argue with you about paranormal subjects. Go back to watching the X-Files.
    I fail to see what was so 'paranormal' about Moody Lawless' statements. Just because it doesn't fit well with the politically correct history books the System keeps printing, doesn't mean it isn't true.

    Kings and birthrights in Europe thesedays? Personally I find it disgusting.
    I don't. If a person manages to gain power and wealth, it's only natural that he wishes to leave it to his children once he passes on. Which doesn't mean I endorse blind obedience to every self-proclaimed leader - we want to bring down the modern elite too, don't we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodskarl Dubhgall
    I do not ascribe Aryan beliefs. To me, it is just another form of Judeofascism.
    One of the more ridiculous statements I've read while at Skadi.

    Human behaviour is...
    So human behavior is what?



    This is a waste of time. Perhaps people will take you seriously when you remove that enormous picture of an equally enormous hick pro-wrestler from your avatar.

    (I say this as a serious suggestion, as regardless of the fact that the wrestler-avatar corresponds with your nature I respect my fellow Monarchists).



    Side note: I know you will give me more negative reputation points for this; so for future reference the word is impolite, not unpolite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deling (as in "we're Dealing with an anti-Monarchist here"...tsk tsk)
    Kings and birthrights in Europe thesedays? Personally I find it disgusting.
    Personally, I find Scandinavians disgusting. (Heh. Just kidding).

    Who would decide what family would be royal?
    Tradition.

    What could an anacronistic aristocratic order do, that National-Revolutionaries cannot?
    Everything.

    Don't knock anachronism.

    Birthright always leads to corruption sooner or later, sterilizes a country, and creates a class society. Nothing benefitial for Europe, that is.
    Care to explain? I'd love to hear you out, as I have already formulated a virtually flawless defense of Monarchy from talking endlessly about the subject with my Marxist boyfriend and others.
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    As to corruption in the monarchical system; I note that monarchies across Eurasia have produced vibrant leadership and high culture century upon century from time immemorial, whereas secular rule has produced corruption and degenration within just a few decades.

    Why? - because secular rule has no conception of Duty, Loyalty, and yes ... no conception of Tradition.

    Let there always be a caste bred to rule, a caste conditioned from birth that its sole reason in life is to rule according to divine right.
    Let this caste be imbued with the accumulated wealth of the nation so as to be above corruption!

    This system works because ultimately that wealth of the nation belongs to the nation and is only held in stewardship by the royal caste. It is their duty to hold onto it and not to sell-it-out as the secular politicians have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by symmakhos
    This is the main problem with monarchy. In theory, I'm a 100% loyal to my king (Carl XVI Gustaf) but let's face it, he as well as his principal heirs are total retards; and the Crown Princess may actually be marrying a "Svensson" (suburban average joe) soon.

    However, most of the European royal families are more intelligent and better fit to rule than the democratic trash we put up with today. Certainly a hereditary principle of government is infinitely preferable to a democratic one. And pure meritocracy breeds too much instability and social unrest, I think.

    The solution may be some sort of breeding control over the royal bloodline, making sure it stays strong, smart, and healthy. And the nobility should be indoctrinated with the noblesse oblige concept from a very early age.
    Spain has a well-functioning monarchy Pushkin's mentioning of a 'service aristocracy' fairly well approximates what I'm advocating.

    Originally posted by Deling
    What could an anacronistic aristocratic order do, that National-Revolutionaries cannot?
    Who said one cannot come out of another? Aristocracy originally arose out of warrior leaders who served the King.

    Moody, Divine Right has been a typically Christian outlook (yes, I'm aware of Julius Caeser being Pontifex Maximus and the Japanese Emperor being the 'Son of Heaven') and that's why I posed the question.
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    "Personally, I find Scandinavians disgusting. (Heh. Just kidding)."

    Well, opinion as opinion...

    "Who said one cannot come out of another? Aristocracy originally arose out of warrior leaders who served the King."

    If I imagined nationalist warriors fighting in Sweden for defence of 'king and country', I would find our dyslectic king laughing his ass off. Or do you suggest that National-revolutionaries should revolt, and establish another, new family as heir of Sweden? Sounds like North Korea to me. And what has it to do with tradition?

    "Care to explain? I'd love to hear you out, as I have already formulated a virtually flawless defense of Monarchy from talking endlessly about the subject with my Marxist boyfriend and others."

    Yes, I can. Heard about nepotism? It's when a family run nations, and without exception it ends in corruption and despotism. Because a monarchy is based on succession rights. And, the most important: how could one be sure that the next generations of kings, queens and other fools, would be proper aristocrats? What happened to the meritocratic principe? Merites, not birthrights. Sorry, but I'm no ultra-conservative, so I have problem clinging to aristocracy and whatever. Nations should have Counsulers, and empires Imperators. But when birthright step into the picture, merites steps out. A vital society become, in the long run, sterile and static.

    "Everything.

    Don't knock anachronism."


    The problem with anachronisms is that they aren't in line with 'zeitgeist'. People nowadays, in Europe, have problem seeing the leader as a 'god chosen', 'rightful heir to the Nation'...'whose rights is based on his royal bloodline'.

    But over in Yankeeland the system is a kinda populist ceasarism, where bloodline often decide who's to become President (Bush, a.e), always belonging to a sort of neo-aristocracy. And the President is respected and admired in a way Europeans would never do nowadays. The president become America's face. I think this aristocratic monarchy is more fitted in America, in a modernized way of course, than in Europe's old royal houses.

    But if the bloodline monarchy is just a dollhouse here in Europe, a expensive soap opera, and the king a puppet to shake hands and say something stupid once in a while, I've no problem with monarchy, even if I find it stupid and resource-wasting.

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