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    Thumbs Up Monarchy!

    http://www.rosenoire.org/essays/monarchy.php

    A Case for Monarchy
    By Archonis

    Over the past 2 years or so, I have done some serious reflecting on the nature of the Republican and Democratic forms of government, and contrasted them in my mind with other forms of government; such as Communism and Socialism. I have found all these systems wanting in a greater or lesser degree, because in spite of the varied ideologies they have they all suffer from a diseased concept concerning the nature and purpose of the State, and its proper relations to the people. In regards to Republicanism and Democracy, these are based on the illusory concept of "Popular Suffrage," which in fact means nothing in that the masses have neither the capability or know-how to determine or understand the workings of the State in relation to the economy, so purely economic interests seize the opportunity of this vacuum to co-opt the State to insure their control over the economy and the socio-political system. Thus under the guise and fraud of the "will of the people," the most banal aspects of the mass culture enshrine themselves as an oligarchy and plutocracy, and through finance easily control the political class as well as the political process of so-called "elections."

    It is common knowledge that all political candidates and parties are controlled by monied interests, just as the political system and its laws are in turn controlled by lobbyists who are also controlled by monied interests. Thus as Julius Evola has pointed out, in this way the purpose and nobility of the State is destroyed through its subordination to the principles of the economy. No matter what system you look at in the modern world, these same subversive processes hold sway and engage in a process of dialectical disintegration with one another. The machinations of high finance and distribution of currency in excess of the GNP of Nations, causes them to fall into patterns of debt in the public and private sectors. This is true no matter what the ideology, as the principles of economy are the same. Similarly the creation of surplus value through wage/profit coefficients, creates an inductive disparity between wages and prices which relocates all wealth to the Capitalist class through the draining of the purchasing power of the wage earners, distributing profit to themselves and scarcity to the workers respectively.

    In spite of the fact that this is also true in Communist countries as the party-bosses raid the coffers of the State to obtain the profits of "State Capitalism," such processes in Capitalist countries do nothing but foment discontent and further the interests of those who would preach the gospel of totalitarianism and Marxism. The perversion of Democracy is that it gives power to the plutocrats in light of the incoherent "mass-will," by default, and through making the State a vehicle of avarice devoid of honor; thereby gives the State too much centralizing power over all aspects of human life. Thus in all collectivist systems based on identification with the masses, (which is every State-based system other than Monarchy) you paradoxically have a totalitarian system based on the tyranny of economic interests and a ruling elite that is unfit to rule, due to the fact that they are beholden only to Mammon and not to any higher principle of honor.

    Now, this is the malaise of our times, no doubt. Being an American and citizen of the U.S., I was raised to believe in the myth of Democracy and to view Monarchy as some kind of system of tyranny. But is it really? I think not! Societies of egalitarianism are in fact the biggest tyrannies, for they reduce all aspects of life to that which resonates to the lowest common demominator, and the stolid aspects of mass-culture and values are made into Law and wielded over the population like a gigantic club. The lowest is made highest and thus regiments all aspects of life in machine-like and brutal manner, and loyalty to the State is compelled by force from the top-down, rather than being inspired from the bottom-up, which is the case in Monarchies. Democracy, Republicanism, Socialism, Communism, as well as the over-industrialized and technological artifacts of the world need to be done away with. All of these are but interrelated syndromes of the same disease, which does nothing but reduce Man to a level that is almost less than an animal, by dehumanizing him with the false values of objectivity and modernity at the expense of the subjective verities of truth and honor. A return to Monarchy is the sole hope of the world. Under Monarchy the State is relegated to its primary purpose, to hold the power of economic interests in check so they cannot despoil the people or the land. The mercantile classes are fit to trade but not fit to rule, and the communists I include in this group, due to their myopia about anything outside of "principles of economy." The modern world is the result of this situation, and its diseased condition is blatantly obvious. The Monarchy and Nobility should be the masters of the wealth of society and not the Capitalists, and their wealth should be bestowed by right and not by virtue of the fact that it was earned. Only in this way can the classes of the Nobility have an unbroken training and tradition in the proper uses of wealth, for their benefit and that of their domains.

    Even more so, does this apply to the Monarchy. Because the wealth is already in the possession of Royalty and Nobility, the profit-motive and the motive to exploit society for mundane ends is removed . There is nothing to be gained by such economic mediocrity, and thus the Monarchy and Nobility can be concerned with matters of Politics and Sociology, as well as matters pertaining to the well-being of their domains . The moderns will cry: "What is to be gained by such a leisure-class that do not earn their wealth like we do?" A great deal. Only by having a leisure-class freed from material cares is it possible to have a truly educated class. Many captains of industry and Capitalists have conceeded that they have not had the time to become well-read and cultured people. And yet they are leading and controlling the world with only the most feeble an d superficial of educations. Even if they spent a good time in college, this cannot match a lifetime of education that can be obtained by people who are freed from the cares of earning a living. Thus the knowledge of the Royals and Nobility will be superior and more qualitative; and not based on the mundane ends of economy alone, but on higher things and values that alone can give the laws of economy a purpose. The Monarchist traditions of the State and Nobility exercises dominion but not tyranny. In this dominion the various peoples among the ruled manifest loyalty to the Crown, not because the Crown dictates their every choice through the contingencies of the laws of economy, but because the Crown gives them the right to flower as peoples that are fully human, only needing to labor solely to support their own station in life. As Evola pointed out, the feudal system is organic and allows for individual self-actualization for the peoples under it, and does not just regard them as economic units.

    Monarchy allows for tremendous decentralization between the auspices of the Royal House, the Nobility, the Houses of Government, and the people. Even the life of a serf is something that a modern worker would envy. A serf labored only during planting and harvesting under the agrarian system, the rest of that time was free-time for the serf to pursue his own interests. You had festivals that went on for months among the serfs, and a noble could be imprisoned for letting his serfs starve if they were old or sick. The ruling classes were accountable not just to their superiors, but also to those lesser than them. They profited from the serfs, but the serfs also profited from the use of the land and worked far less than people do now under the plutocratic tyranny of industrialism. Who is the bigger slave, the serf or the wage-earner? I am certain the wage-earner of modern times would envy the serf. And if Monarchy would treat even the serfs in a more humane way than the poor are treated now, how much better would it be for everyone else! The serfs were valued, and not stigmatized for their spartan life, it was proper to their station and not a reason for criticism. The modern poor are psychologically stigmatized for their inability to make a fortune, as if everyone could just go and do that! The stability of social stations and the purposes innate to them makes for psychological health among human beings. A place from which you can neither rise nor fall, is a rock from which all endeavor can flower and work can exist for its own sake, not for the ulterior motive of either rising from or preventing a fall from where you are. The instability of human purpose and work and its subordination to purely economic ends is the primary cause of social and individual instability and psycho-pathology. A cause and result of modernism. Monarchism with its castes and roles frees humanity from the anxiety of striving to or falling from a particular station in life, each of which is valued in the context of community. Trade guilds, serfs, the ministers of state, Nobility and Monarchy, were an organic continuity that allowed for the flowering of human nature in its diverse forms, from the most humble to the most lofty. Is it any wonder that Monarchy is the most stable and humane from of government the world has ever known? And is it also any wonder that Democracy, Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, Republicanism, are decaying and crumbling away as we speak, from the entropy of their ignorant and mis-begotten valuations and constructs?

    Pushkin: I'm not a Monarchist per se, but I have always admired the level that tradition, ceremonies, ritualism, and sense of nobility were upheld under the Monarchies. I adhere to the notion of a "Popular Monarchy", which was a notion upheld by many emigre White Russians. That is, the Czar and the nobility exist, but its more of a populist form of monarchy.

    I noticed often how the Fascists and National Socialists often adopted many aspects of monarchism in their forms of government. I find many similarities between how high the German people felt about Hitler to the way they felt about the Kaiser.

    The way Hitler's name and title of Fuhrer was always invoked to add authority is not entirely different to how it was done for a King in a Monarchy. The slogan "For Fuhrer and Fatherland" is really a NS adoptation of the Monarchist slogan "For King and Country". The level of ritualism and ceremonies under both regimes is very much in vogue with the spirit of the Monarchies. And of course the SS was very much the NS version of the Royal/Imperial Guard, as Himmler often compared his men to.

    So I believe that even if a monarchy cannot be created per se, like the NS and Fascists we must adopt many aspects of the Monarchy system and apply to our modern forms of government.
    Last edited by Moody; Thursday, June 24th, 2004 at 03:56 PM. Reason: copied quotations - nothing removed or added

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    I agree with much of what you say.

    You may be interested in the following;

    "The state of Monarchy is the most supreme thing upon this earth, for Kings are not only God's lieutenants upon earth, and sit upon God's throne, but even by God Himself are called gods ...
    In the Scriptures, Kings are called gods, and so their power after a certain relation is to be compared to Divine Power.
    Kings are also compared to fathers of families: for a King is truly 'Parens patriae', the 'politique' father of his people ...
    Kings are justly called gods, for that they exercise a manner of resemblance of Divine Power on earth: for if you will consider the attributes to God, you shall see how they agree in the person of a King".
    [King James I of Great Britain]

    See this link;

    www.dagobertsrevenge.com/articles/monarchy.html

    Cheers, Moody.
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    I am a monarchist. I have been since I first became interested in the French Revolution (practically my whole life).

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    Post Re: A case for Monarchy

    For those who believe in a Creator, monarchy is the natural order of society. Heaven is not a democracy.

    The revitalization and restoration of Europe's monarchies may pave the way for a larger renaissance of European culture. The races of Europe did not achieve dominance by peaceful means, so any resurgence is likely to be messy. I hope it happens soon, before the effects of nonwhite immigration have reached critical mass.

    There is some hope; criticism of Israel and Zionist policies is now socially acceptable in Europe. As the political climate polarizes, men will become emboldened to stand up for their lands and eject the strangers among them. It has happened before. Leadership is required; thoughtful, forceful, and with no motive for personal gain. The royal houses of Europe, whose sons are born, bred, and trained to lead, could provide what is needed.
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    No matter which way you bend him,
    he will always take root again."
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    Post Re: Monarchy

    I support the idea of a Monarchist forum.

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    Post Re: Monarchy

    Here is an interesting site for the English Monarchy.

    And here is one for the Danish Monarchy.

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    Post Re: Monarchy

    Here's a good Russian Monarchist website
    http://vojnik.org./vvodeng.htm

    THE BASIC PRINCIPLES


    The Committee of the National Revival of Russia (CNRR) is the organized community of Russian people united by a common cultural (spiritual) wealth and political orientation. CNRR supports the Right conservative, monarchist option.

    CNRR has no intent of usurping the rights of the State system establishment and the State functions and rights; however, it reserves the right to suggest particular social and political policies and some civilised state attributes. We are convinced that either a direct referendum or a legal and legitimate legislative institution can legitimize the form of government and the national symbols.

    As its main goal the CNRR considers the revival of the legal continuity of State governing.

    We realize that at the present moment society is not ready for the return of the traditional form of government, i.e. the monarchy. It is an ideal and a long-term goal. Therefore, we are not supporting a particular person or a particular royal dynasty but rather the revival of this legal form of government.

    CNRR assumes the revival of the monarchy will only be within the bounds of the presently existing state order.

    The Orthodox Church (no matter under what legal non-sectarian jurisdiction) is our main spiritual base.

    CNRR desires that Orthodoxy regain its influence as it had before the revolution. We are supporting most of the regulations of the Russian Orthodox Church Council 1917-1918, including the following:

    1. "The Orthodox Church, the constituent part of the united Universe Orthodox Church, has a public, judicial precedence among all the rest of the religions in Russia due to its holy power which unifies Russia.

    2. The Orthodox Church is independent from the State government in the questions of faith and morals, divine services, inner church discipline and the relationship with other churches and religions.

    3. The resolutions of the Orthodox Church as well as the acts of church administration and court have the judicial power, assuming they follow State laws.

    4. The State laws concerning the Orthodox Church are issued with the consultation and mutual agreement with the Orthodox Church…"

    Due to the fact that Russia is a multicultural country we are ready to collaborate with the members of other traditional religions.

    CNRR rejects any use of force against our ideological opponents since this can not bring success but would only discredit the Conservative - Right.

    CNRR rejects internationalism, considering the uniqueness of every nation.

    CNRR considers unacceptable any kind of globalization but at the same time confronts the modern "antiglobalists", who generally are Marxists and anarchists.

    We think that the Russian Empire is only an idealistic State and we don't intend to restore everything that was lost. We are not willing to move history backwards, but strive for a new state, spiritually close to the former Great Russia, waking up the genetic sense of justice. This sense of justice will let us build our country in accordance with traditional and natural principles.

    In order to revive the traditions of the army of the Russian Empire the members of CNRR have joined the military-historical community of "The First Hussar Seslavin Regiment" and belong to the 3rd squadron of the regiment. The regiment is based on the friendship and collaboration with the Cavalry Unit of the Russian Military Forces (military unit number 55605). Joint exercises of horse riding as well as the trench-searches for Russia's fallen in WW2 and other arrangements are held together with this military unit.

    The members of CNRR research the tactics and service regulations of the Russian Army, study and improve their military skills, arrange and participate in military ceremonies, church services and religious processions.

    CNRR members participate in different scientific conferences and similar functions.

    The members of CNRR constantly communicate with Russian emigrants around the world. We are striving for the reunion of the Russian people and consider the emigrants and the people, who live in the independent states, which appeared after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, as an inalienable part of Russian society.

    Although CNRR does not consider any changes of its main principles, we are ready for permanent dynamic modifications in order to fit the spirit of the time and to encourage productive work.

    CNRR admits the necessary changes of the following state symbols of Russia:

    Flag - the flag of Russian Empire 1858-1883, 1886-1917 (a rectangular colour cloth of even large horizontal lines: upper black, middle - yellow and lower - white)

    State Emblem (coat of arms) - a small State Emblem of Russian Empire (approved in 1883): A black double-headed crowned eagle in a golden shield, which holds a sceptre and an orb. On the chest of the eagle there is the Moscow coat of arms surrounded by a chain of St. Andrew. The eight coats of arms of the most important Russian Empire territories decorate the wings of the eagle.

    Anthem - "God save the tsar (king)", the national anthem of the Russian Empire since 1833. ("National anthem", words by B. A. Zhukovskij, music - A. F. Lvov)

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    Post Re: Monarchy

    I support any kind of holistic, folkish, Traditional government, monarchy included. Synthesis is a great online journal.
    BLUT UND BODEN!

    Some find it in a flag, some in the beat of a drum
    Some with a book, and some with a gun
    Some in a kiss, and some on the march
    But if you're looking for Europe, best look in your heart

    (Sol Invictus)

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    That was a very interesting article. I am not a monarchist, but I am authoritarian, that is, I don't really believe in democracy or majority rule.

    I think I can learn a lot from monarchy [absolute, not constitutional] in relation to my beliefs though - national pride, a strong figurehead, strong leader etc.
    "I knew who I was when I got up this morning but I think I must have changed several times since then." Alice, Alice in Wonderland

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    I'm a Monarchist. Having said that, I have very precise beliefs of what constitutes a valid Monarch. I dont think just anyone can 'make themselves King', or be elected democratically as one. I also think the idea of having a king foreign to his people (not of their blood, or language) is an unnatural idea. I have no respect for authoritarian government of military leaders, elected leaders, etc. I'm of freefolk and can rule myself quite well, thank you. Monarchy or Anarchy, I'd say (and Anarchy only until proper monarchy is restored.)

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