Tribal Founders and Their Placenames!

[Rodskarl Dubhgall]

Njord/Nerthus=Norge, Normandie
Ing/Angel=Angeln, England
Freyr/Frigg=Fryslan, France
Saxnot=Sachsen, Wessex
Odin/God=Goetaland, Jylland
Donar/Thor=Danmark, Thueringen
Tyr=Deutschland

Feel free to provide your take on this and your own discoveries.

[NormanBlood]

Actually, the word "frank" specifically referred to the throwing lance most common to the Franks The two meanings are sometimes confused..but thats what the Franks were named after

said themselves to be descendants from Wotan. So he would be the tribal founder.]

that they did

And yes, Norman means "northman"..just what they generally called the Vikings whether they were from Norway or not. The frisians were however the "children of Freyr".

[Rodskarl Dubhgall]

What is up with Odin??? AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!

[Odin Of Ossetia]

Actually, the word "frank" specifically referred to the throwing lance most common to the Franks The two meanings are sometimes confused..but thats what the Franks were named after



that they did

And yes, Norman means "northman"..just what they generally called the Vikings whether they were from Norway or not. The frisians were however the "children of Freyr".

No, Frisians are named after Friso, a legendary Indo-Aryan prince from the north-west of the Indian subcontinent, who reached the Mediterranean coast, abandoned Alexander the Great (his protege), and sailed with his people to what is now known as Frisia.


I also read that the Saxons were descended from the Iranian Sakas, and that the Franks might have been of Iranian origin as well, but I do not know the details of this.

[Rodskarl Dubhgall]

F*ck off! You and others like you always try to make the Europeans be your bitch, like the Afrocentricism which claimed all inventions were of their design. Go away slave!

[NormanBlood]

And what is this abracadabrantesque tale with a "lance" ?

nope...quite sure it was the throwing lance which they were known for. I've read it quite a few places

Do you mean that my glorious ancestors were liars ?

If you are Burgundian then your ancestors were not the Franks they were the...BURGUNDIANS! I probably got more Frankish than a Burgundian

No, Frisians are named after Friso, a legendary Indo-Aryan prince from the north-west of the Indian subcontinent, who reached the Mediterranean coast, abandoned Alexander the Great (his protege), and sailed with his people to what is now known as Frisia.


I also read that the Saxons were descended from the Iranian Sakas, and that the Franks might have been of Iranian origin as well, but I do not know the details of this.

I'm not even gonna bother with that crap I hate people who try to link us to the middle east.

[Rodskarl Dubhgall]

nope...quite sure it was the throwing lance which they were known for. I've read it quite a few places

Well, whatever, it means free today. Would St. Francis of Assisi be known as a weapon of God?

If you are Burgundian then your ancestors were not the Franks they were the...BURGUNDIANS! I probably got more Frankish than a Burgundian

Burgunders are from Bornholm.

I'm not even gonna bother with that crap I hate people who try to link us to the middle east.

Aye!

[NormanBlood]

I would be delighted that you gave me your sources
It is very probable that they used lances among other weapons, but they were more fond of axes and swords like sacramasax, and I never heard that theywere named after a lance. What was the name of this famous lance if so ? It would have been a name in fran- something...

Actually, the axe (as well as the seax ) was most popular among the Saxons. In fact most Germanics of that time probably would have been using these throwing spears (I just looked it up in Germania..the correct word is javelin ) this you can see written by Tacitus. In fact he says "swords they used rarely"

Neither in truth do they abound in iron, as from the fashion of their weapons may be gathered. Swords they rarely use, or the larger spear. They carry javelins or, in their own language, framms, pointed with a piece of iron short and narrow, but so sharp and manageable, that with the same weapon they can fight at a distance or hand to hand, just as need requires. Nay, the horsemen also are content with a shield and a javelin. The foot throw likewise weapons missive, each particular is armed with many, and hurls them a mighty space, all naked or only wearing a light cassock. In their equipment they show no ostentation; only that their shields are diversified and adorned with curious colours. With coats of mail very few are furnished, and hardly upon any is seen a head-piece or helmet.

In Germania he says they are called "framms"(but here he speaks of the Germans of Germania as a whole..not of specific tribes), but I have read other sources when speaking directly of the Franks during their invasion of northern Gaul saying they used the "javelins from which they were named"..or some such.

(I will surely try one day to draw a map with germanic toponyms in my region.)

Yes, it is amazing even in Normandy there are many toponyms from Old Norse and Frankish..that were originally in those languages but later on "translated" to French. For example anything that ends in bec (Québec!!) is from the ON "bekkr". In fact Renaud, I believe, made mention that most of the place names that end in "ville" in northern France are of Frankish origin..because that would how they named places in Old Frankish.

(And by the way I have attested Frankish ascendance, in my family tree I trace back to Charlemagne, and it's not after guesses, but after official genealogy.)

Very cool I love geneology. My last name, so I have recently discovred, is of Frankish origin(not latinicised at all) but I have also read that when the Normans came to Normandy we took many Frankish surnames instead of the latinicised ones (though some Normans did take modified surnames based on Old Norse)

[Shapur]

I'm not even gonna bother with that crap I hate people who try to link us to the middle east.

And I hate it when people link us Aryans to non-Aryans!
By the way Germans have as the the only German tribe many many real Aryan blood.



The name of the Saxons "Ben a Sächse!" come from the Sakas"Iranians".
This is correct.

[Rodskarl Dubhgall]

And I hate it when people link us Aryans to non-Aryans!
By the way Germans have as the the only German tribe many many real Aryan blood.



The name of the Saxons "Ben a Sächse!" come from the Sakas"Iranians".
This is correct.

You are just looking for trouble. High tail it out of here jackass!