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    Quote Originally Posted by VargViking View Post
    Thanks. The artwork under your post is beautiful! Who made it? Do you have a link to similar art?
    It´s an artwork for the roleplaying game "Neverwinter Nights" from Bioware. It depicts Aribeth de Tylmarande, a main character there. I´ve found it years ago.

    Maybe google picture search can help you: http://images.google.de/images?hl=de...gbv=2&aq=f&oq=

    I know only of one other picture in that style, I´ve uploaded it for you - Aribeth moaning over her friend who has been hanged.


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    Quote Originally Posted by VargViking View Post
    You say you're not a christian but would gladly burn "heretics" at the stake?
    'Heretics'? Hehe, reminds me of how the fantasist IRA baby killers call themselves 'prisoners of war' when they're caught, rather than simple mafioso-style criminals!

    I don't burn heretics, as I don't defend any particular orthodoxy. I'd gladly burn a simple vandal, though, if he thought he was man enough to risk the consequences of destroying monuments of my culture!
    thousand year old plague, can it be justly condemned?
    Relax! We've almost recovered from it anyway. You want to saw off the leg that's not lame any more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oswiu View Post
    I'd gladly burn a simple vandal


    1 (a). This is a board for people of Germanic heritage. Views, ideas, and contributions that are hostile to Germanics or their heritage are not permitted.

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    Lower case 'V', mein Kamerad...

    (Vandals ~ Veneti ~ Wenden notwithstanding... )

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    Quote Originally Posted by velvet View Post
    Willkommen im Forum! Du sprichst auch deutsch?
    Ich spreche nur selten Deutsch, lese es aber um so öfter, fast jeden Tag: deutsche nationale Netzseiten, historischen Revisionismus und Bücher aus dem dritten Reiche.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oswiu View Post
    'Heretics'? Hehe, reminds me of how the fantasist IRA baby killers call themselves 'prisoners of war' when they're caught, rather than simple mafioso-style criminals!

    I don't burn heretics, as I don't defend any particular orthodoxy. I'd gladly burn a simple vandal, though, if he thought he was man enough to risk the consequences of destroying monuments of my culture!

    Relax! We've almost recovered from it anyway. You want to saw off the leg that's not lame any more!
    I'm still not happy with this. You ASSUME that Varg is a "simple vandal" and are ready to burn him at the stake without even listening to him. It is obvious that you haven't read his explanation at the official burzum site: http://www.burzum.org . You consider him a hooligan and guilty of wanton destruction of "monuments of my culture". You identify a germanic tribe, the vandals, with such destruction. This shows that you are still stuck in a roman-jewish mindset and that you consider church culture YOUR culture.

    I know that churches, even the church buildings themselves, are full of wonderful germanic art and I enjoy it tremendously. So does Varg! He's not a subhuman hater of high culture. The wooden norwegian stave churches that he burned are actually memories of prechristian norse wood cutting art, once used to build heathen temples (hov). That is PRECISELY why he burned them! You understand nothing of this because you are still alien to OUR germanic culture and view of life and honour. Another reason was that these churches had been placed at holy heathen sites and were a lasting sacrilege.

    I agree that christianity in its traditional form is almost dead. But it has left descendants that are even more obnoxious than itself: the puritan-freemasonic "british Israel" legacy that is so prevalent in Britain and America. It's pure jew worship! This spirit governs all policies in your countries today and even determines YOUR personal attitudes.

    I don't support burning churches; that is useless today. But I understand Varg. And one day when our germanic folks become free again we will burn down the stave churches once more, and in their place we will rebuild our holy heathen temples at their holy sites that were once destroyed by christianity.

    Heil Irminsul!

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    Welcome, VargViking. Hope you like it here and looking forward to interesting posts.

    I'm not going to fuel the repeated discussion over Varg's deeds, as for one, we've discussed them all in great detail before throughout several threads --- and secondly because this is primarily an introduction thread.

    A minor point, though:

    Quote Originally Posted by VargViking View Post
    And one day when our germanic folks become free again we will burn down the stave churches once more, and in their place we will rebuild our holy heathen temples at their holy sites that were once destroyed by christianity.
    There is no immediate need to be so destructive. All these churches were built by our own folk, too, and represent the architectural heritage of our folk throughout the ages. I think that for example, most Viennese, including the Heathens would be very upset if somebody decided to burn down the Stephansdom.

    Perhaps, many churches could be refurbished in their interior and Christian holy signs removed, with important paintings and sculptures somehow saved from destruction. These could then be utilised by Heathens, especially those who happen to live in a more urban environment and may be unable to blot in nature regularly.

    Other than that - often blot would have been celebrated in groves/forests. Our ancestors were very connected with the woodland that surrounded them, so I deem indoor worship a rather late phenomenon; and also one which is not really found with continental Germanics, who were obviously christianised much earlier. Perhaps this olden tradition could be preserved and still used in the future, even with more numerous followers of our folkway.

    Finally, many of these "holy sites" became "holy sites" because they were made holy in the first place. In those areas where an applicable approach to reclaiming sacred sites without destroying more recent art of our folk is impossible or impracticable, I cannot see why we can't sanctify sites which have no ancient tradition yet: With all these old sites, someone will, at some point, have done just that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VargViking
    I don't support burning churches; that is useless today. But I understand Varg. And one day when our germanic folks become free again we will burn down the stave churches once more, and in their place we will rebuild our holy heathen temples at their holy sites that were once destroyed by christianity.

    Heil Irminsul!
    I have to agree to a certain degree with Sigurd, the simple destruction of those churches wouldnt do, or maybe would cause more damage than wanted, just look at the burned down Rissby church in Sweden where they've found a very big rune stone under it, that was nearly destroyed due to the burning and then crushing building. So, maybe we can de-construct them and preserve the wonderful art cutted into the wood, and do not destroy things under them

    Doesnt mean I'm entirely against this idea though, and with newer churches I'd have no mercy, bring out what's kept (old writings, family books and so on) and then away with it

    But indeed, this is not the right place to discuss that further...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigurd View Post
    Welcome, VargViking. Hope you like it here and looking forward to interesting posts.

    I'm not going to fuel the repeated discussion over Varg's deeds, as for one, we've discussed them all in great detail before throughout several threads --- and secondly because this is primarily an introduction thread.

    A minor point, though:



    There is no immediate need to be so destructive. All these churches were built by our own folk, too, and represent the architectural heritage of our folk throughout the ages. I think that for example, most Viennese, including the Heathens would be very upset if somebody decided to burn down the Stephansdom.

    Perhaps, many churches could be refurbished in their interior and Christian holy signs removed, with important paintings and sculptures somehow saved from destruction. These could then be utilised by Heathens, especially those who happen to live in a more urban environment and may be unable to blot in nature regularly.

    Other than that - often blot would have been celebrated in groves/forests. Our ancestors were very connected with the woodland that surrounded them, so I deem indoor worship a rather late phenomenon; and also one which is not really found with continental Germanics, who were obviously christianised much earlier. Perhaps this olden tradition could be preserved and still used in the future, even with more numerous followers of our folkway.

    Finally, many of these "holy sites" became "holy sites" because they were made holy in the first place. In those areas where an applicable approach to reclaiming sacred sites without destroying more recent art of our folk is impossible or impracticable, I cannot see why we can't sanctify sites which have no ancient tradition yet: With all these old sites, someone will, at some point, have done just that.
    I agree with you. I don't want to destroy our heritage of the last thousand years. That would be mad. Everything should be preserved for documentary historical purposes if nothing else. And of course all the great art should be carefully kept. I was thinking more spiritually and symbolically when I said that. Physical destruction in itself is meaningless. I would compare it with what the Hitler-jugend did to decadent, perverse, pornographic jewish books in the thirties: They were burnt as an act of ritual cleansing. But only some copies were burnt, the works were of course preserved for documentary purposes.

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