View Poll Results: Should Turkey join the EU?

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Thread: EU Enlargement: Should Turkey Join the EU?

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    Thumbs Down Re: EU Enlargement - Turkey

    I think that the E.U. should be aborted, but in the meantime no! Turkey must not join (although it will). Turkey is non-White and bringing it into the E.U. will hasten the destruction of the White race by bringing many non-Whites into Europe, sending more White money, technology, food, medicine etc. out to the non-Whites and further corrupting our culture and institutions.

    If I remember correctly, Cyprus is technically in Asia; however I'd say that the Greek part is effectively European. A positive thing for the E.U. to do would be to arm and fund Greece and help her to kick the Turks out of Cyprus and the Turkey-in-Europe enclave.

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    Post Re: EU Enlargement - Turkey

    Quote Originally Posted by justify
    Where do you put Cyprus (Greek Part) geographically that joined EU two weeks ago. Is it geographically Europe? If Cyprus is geographically Europe, how come Turkey is not? In history, Turks may not melt in local customes where most countries they conquered. But, Turks have been adopting Western cultures and laws for almost 200 years. In fact, most Turks now live, dress and talk like Western people. In addition, Turkey is not an Islamist country, even though 99% of its population is Islam. Turkey is a democrathic republic and strengthened its democracy with EU adoption laws for last couple of years.
    Come on. If in Turkey, army looses grip, then the country ploundges into Islamism. Remember the previous Prime-Minister. And the problems which arrived when his Islamic party gained elections. Just stating the fact "Turkey is a democratic republic" does not imply it is. First, we have to see and accept our own problems, their simple denial does not help in solving them.

    Cyprus is not culturally Europe, but its Greek part is not too far from this. Greece is Europe. Like the old Byzantine Empire was, but it had the missfortune to be invaded. Well, living these apart, please try to answer clear and precise to the questions I posed in the first message.

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    Post Re: EU Enlargement - Turkey

    Of course, the current EU is NOT based on racial considerations.
    There are millions of Africans, Indians etc., living in Europe as EU citizens now; therefore to suggest that Turkey should be barred from joining the EU on racial grounds is absurd.

    If we imagine [and that's all we can do] a Union of European states based on race and culture, then clearly Turkey would not be allowed. But then I would hope that such a Union would do something about the Jews in its midst too!

    But get this - the present reason for not allowing Turkey into the EU immediately is because of its bad 'human rights' record!
    Turkey is not SOFT enough ... yet!

    The EU is based on a set of liberal economic/political criteria, none of which I personally share.
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    Post Re: EU Enlargement - Turkey

    Brits have never fully supported EU. I think that Britain should at least support Europe if not the EU. The dislike for Continental Europe is just a matter of selfish interests, what else?

    As for Turks, they are at least in the western parts relatively fair for Southern European standards. An example is this years Eurovision song contest participants representing Turkey. They were as Europid as anyone else and fairer than many participants. They are generally speaking not compatible with Northern Europe, but so aren't many other non-Northern European people. That is of course just an example but still my argument is that they cannot be rejected solely because of not fitting in terms of race. There must be something else, maybe Turkish political allegiance towards USA instead of the rest of Europe?


    Quote Originally Posted by George
    I think that the E.U. should be aborted, but in the meantime no! Turkey must not join (although it will). Turkey is non-White and bringing it into the E.U. will hasten the destruction of the White race by bringing many non-Whites into Europe, sending more White money, technology, food, medicine etc. out to the non-Whites and further corrupting our culture and institutions.
    Last edited by Glenlivet; Sunday, May 16th, 2004 at 05:28 PM.

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    Post Re: EU Enlargement - Turkey

    Quote Originally Posted by George
    I think that the E.U. should be aborted, but in the meantime no! Turkey must not join (although it will). Turkey is non-White and bringing it into the E.U. will hasten the destruction of the White race by bringing many non-Whites into Europe, sending more White money, technology, food, medicine etc. out to the non-Whites and further corrupting our culture and institutions.

    If I remember correctly, Cyprus is technically in Asia; however I'd say that the Greek part is effectively European. A positive thing for the E.U. to do would be to arm and fund Greece and help her to kick the Turks out of Cyprus and the Turkey-in-Europe enclave.
    Turkish are not Europeans ,and yes maybe some of them look like Europeans but because a lot of Europoids,Greeks,Armenians,Slavs,incorpo rated to Islam to win priviliges.But i don't believe that thty feel or act like Europeans .But the east part of Turkey is mongoloid with arabic admixture!
    As for the Turks as a German N.S skinhead ,friend of mine says :Turken Rauss!!
    ME NE FREGO

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    Post Re: EU Enlargement - Turkey

    There's a problem if they have to act. It should be natural. Turkey is a big land, it is heterogeneous with reginal differences. Nevertheless, I maintain that they are as Europid as their western neighbours up to the Balkans. From what I have seen only Slovenia is somewhat different, with more Noric and East Baltid, and perhaps a little Nordid in the north.


    Quote Originally Posted by panzerjager
    But i don't believe that thty feel or act like Europeans

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    Post Re: EU Enlargement - Turkey

    Turkey should denounce itself from Europe as a whole. Not for the EU to decide, but their own government.

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    Post Re: EU Enlargement - Turkey

    Quote Originally Posted by panzerjager
    But the east part of Turkey is mongoloid with arabic admixture!
    Actually, Eastern Turkey is more Armenoid to eastern proper and has a lot of Lezgi and Georgian stock (Southern Caucasian) to Northeast. A heavy Kurdish population to the Southeast with strong Levantine influence. Actual Mongoloid admixture is very, very slight indeed but Turanid types are common in the inland parts. As Volksdeutscher has stated, it's a very heterogenous country with great differences between regions.

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    Post Re: EU Enlargement - Turkey

    You obviously know more, but that is what I have observed too. Also Turks have told me that Turanid is more in inner Anatolia. There is also a smaller Mediterranid (Cappadocian?) alongside a darker Pontid.

    I have noticed that Turkish blondes (or red heads) are short headed and broad faced with somewhat upturned noses.

    Northeastern Turkey is even the Armenoid centre. By Levantine influences do you mean Arabid type? I know that there is a small Arab minority in SE Turkey. I guess that is not the ones you referred to.


    Quote Originally Posted by rusalka
    Actually, Eastern Turkey is more Armenoid to eastern proper and has a lot of Lezgi and Georgian stock (Southern Caucasian) to Northeast. A heavy Kurdish population to the Southeast with strong Levantine influence. Actual Mongoloid admixture is very, very slight indeed but Turanid types are common in the inland parts. As Volksdeutscher has stated, it's a very heterogenous country with great differences between regions.

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    Post Re: EU Enlargement - Turkey

    I hope EU totally effeminates Turks, so Greeks can take Byzant once again

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