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    Quote Originally Posted by Hauke Haien View Post
    Germany is less accomodating when it comes to mothers who want to pursue a career while raising children. At the same time, it is considered embarrassing for a woman to lack personal economic success and to rely on her husband. This is also rooted in notions of personal autonomy that affected our society through the 68er student movement. It is popular to blame them for it, but my view is that they were abject failures and the surviving system cherry picked the parts of their ideology that it deemed useful, which were usually the most harmful. Either way, many women opted not to have children as a result and it is now considered slightly nationalsocialist to worry too much about our biological continuity.
    Yes. I read it's not uncommon in Sweden that mothers can even bring their small children to work. Larger corporations sometimes even offer their own day care centers. According to the article, Swedes do in general not consider this a nuisance and, wherever it is possible, show understanding if a mother brings her small child with her to work. Supposedly, in Germany this is socially not accepted or desired. Apparently, Swedish companies are also more flexible and offer a larger number of part-time employment opportunities. In addition, the density of playgrounds is much higher in Sweden. Figuratively spoken, there is one next to every other apartment block. And lastly, the article stated that the fathers in Sweden participate more in the child care and raising, while in Germany still a more traditional perspective prevails. Maybe it's a bit generalized, but there might be some truth to it.

    I believe this to be the main cause for France's good performance, since it may have as much as 10% Muslims, but the statistics are blind for everything except country of origin. The République française is the prototypical territorial state with a citizenship based on jus soli, usually contrasted with the folkish Germany that historically (until 2000) based its citizenship on jus sanguinis alone.
    I never heard that Germany rescinded or softened its jus sanguinis. What changed in 2000? Contrariwise, I believe to recall that news reports stated some years ago that the French conservatives had dumped France's traditional jus soli?

    The 14th Amendment is one of America's greatest misfortunes, too:

    "Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

    To understand the amendment in its historical context, the 14th was passed after the Civil War to guarantee the rights of the former black slaves and their offspring. It was not enacted to support the Hispanic pregnancy tourism of today. We should have done away with it a long time ago.

    It is estimated from those who were not part of the 16.7% or 1.53 million who had at least one parent born abroad or were themselves born abroad. I agree that this should be a good approximation.
    I agree. Questionable remains whether realistic figures of the number of illegal immigrants were estimated and included.
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    I see Scandinavians here at Skadi more than on other Germanic or European forums, where the Scandinavian sections aren't active. But on Skadi the American and German posters seem to have always been more numerous than other nationalities. So that leaves the impression there isn't much Scandinavian impact. But in threads like Scandinavism/Nordism, which concern their specific matters, we can see Scandinavian presence from all Scandinavian countries. It would be great if there were more, but demographically Americans and Germans will always be more, so we'll see more regular members from these countries. However, I'm glad to see on Skadi there is some representation for nearly all Germanic nationalities and ethnic groups, even the Faroese, the Transylvanian Saxons, Danube Swabians, Sudeten Germans and South Flemish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forseti View Post
    Scandinavians are considered rather reserved and rational here. The total opposite to troublemakers. In the Midwest there is a direct correlation between the number of people of Scandinavian (and German) ancestry in a community and the property prices.
    I have heard similar "politically incorrect" studies about the higher value of Midwestern property in correlation to the number of certain "nationalities" living in a community. My user name is Vandal Lord not Vanland.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sissi View Post
    I see Scandinavians here at Skadi more than on other Germanic or European forums, where the Scandinavian sections aren't active. But on Skadi the American and German posters seem to have always been more numerous than other nationalities. So that leaves the impression there isn't much Scandinavian impact. But in threads like Scandinavism/Nordism, which concern their specific matters, we can see Scandinavian presence from all Scandinavian countries. It would be great if there were more, but demographically Americans and Germans will always be more, so we'll see more regular members from these countries. However, I'm glad to see on Skadi there is some representation for nearly all Germanic nationalities and ethnic groups, even the Faroese, the Transylvanian Saxons, Danube Swabians, Sudeten Germans and South Flemish.
    You make some good points about Scandinavian participation here at Skadi in comparison to other message boards. It's also true about the large number of American, German and English posters as well. I made a similar observation of this in another thread and how we can try to get more Germanics in from other countries on this board.

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    I have observed that many Scandinavians tend to see themselves as a secluded unity, distinct from all others. Therefore, immediate identification and kinship might not be with other Germanics, even though after some silent thinking they realise that they do have a little in common and understand again why their beer-talk in Bavaria was much more fun than the one in Spain.

    Quote Originally Posted by Renwein View Post
    coupla things trends I *do* find wierd: millions of Finns are EVERYWHERE on the web, maybe they are hogging the bandwidth over there?
    Would you know of anything else to do in Finland, apart from perhaps meeting round a lakeside in a forest and drinking unhealthy loads of alcoholic beverage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forseti View Post
    A very sensible strategy to increase the social cohesion and inner peace in an ethnically homogeneous community, but when organized land-grabbing on a mass scale is taking place by immigration of non-assimilable immigrants, the Furor Teutonicus were beyond a doubt the better survival strategy. Despite these developments, the majority of Swedes appears to be very liberal still. It has always amazed me that Europeans seem to be particularly keen on importing or copying the negative aspects of Americanism (multi-culturalism, globalization, affirmative action, non-racialism, etc.), while they are utterly opposed to its positive aspects (independence from the government, the right to bear arms, free speech, conservative family values, death penalty, etc.)
    To be White and a social liberal is suicidal and traitorous.. ESPECIALLY in a European Germanic homeland.

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    Swedes in particular know English very well, there were tons of them on the NWN (computer game) server I used to play on, they attributed this to watching TV & movies, I guess with a smaller population there is less domestic language material as opposed to the number of people who speak French or German as a native language.

    Quote Originally Posted by Forseti View Post
    The 14th Amendment is one of America's greatest misfortunes, too:

    "Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

    To understand the amendment in its historical context, the 14th was passed after the Civil War to guarantee the rights of the former black slaves and their offspring. It was not enacted to support the Hispanic pregnancy tourism of today. We should have done away with it a long time ago.
    There is a strong argument that illegal aliens are not 'subject to the jurisdiction' of the United States, and therefore their children should not be granted citizenship. Native Indians were not granted citizenship until the 1920s, although the 14th Amendment was enacted in the 1860s, so I think we can assume that not everyone born on US soil is automatically a 'citizen' by virtue of the 14th Amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blood_Axis View Post
    Scandinavians (especially Swedes) are famous for their facility in learning English, probably because their languages are very closely related to English.

    They're considered to be the most fluent, non-native English, English speakers. I can testify that almost every Stockholmer I've met speaks fluent English, and with a perfect accent

    This is probably the reason, I am afraid. Too much brainwashing and anti-nationalist propaganda
    I am Swedish. I was VERY close to not visiting here again since I felt some negativity and prejudice here towards Scandinavians. There is no point now in getting into detail but it was a turn-off.

    Since probably many other Scandinavians read these threads before joining they may be discouraged, unfortunately.

    Also, there are sites specifically for Scandinavians on the net, so just because they are not here it is not right to question their involvement, or say that they are brainwashed.

    We are not any more brainwashed than any of you, who also "let in" hordes of immigrants by the minute. No need for this constant Scandinavia bashing. And then you wonder why we don't join!

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    Unfortunately we in the Scandinavian countries have been overexposed to social democratic internationalism propaganda and to a large extent lost our Germanic identity and pride in our heritage. We have gotten the Marxist message hammered into us since grade school with a very negative effect.

    All we can hope for now is that foreign immigration becomes unbearable and turn our big cities into war zones. Then people will start to awake.

    It has to get a lot worse before it can get better...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eoppoyz View Post
    Swedes are afraid to do something wrong - especially in English.
    Yes this is very true, but not just the Swedes as this type of behavioral disposition can also be observed in Norwegians and Danes due to their inclination toward a clement nature.

    Such inclination can be seen on a higher scale when contrasted between the behaviour of nonwhites present in Denmark and the Danes themselves:
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    The inclination toward riots and savagery is a typical behavior present among nonwhites and mediterraneans, who are more prone toward aggresivity than passivity, unlike Scandinavians.

    Scandinavians at the same time have an acute sensibility and do get more shocked when being witnesses to the violent behaviour of nonwhites and the unsophisticatedly rustic behaviour of Meds, either online or in real life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todesengel View Post
    Are you serious? Have you ever seen those videos from places like Malmö?
    Are you serious? Have you ever been to Malmö?

    The image they try to give you in those Youtube clips is more like a war torn Stalingrad during WW2 and not very accurate of how Malmö actually looks.
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