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    What's Up With Iranians Saying They're Persians?

    and whats up with them thinking they're black and dressing that way..

    well i'm saying that because i'm currently sat in a snooker club looking about 30 of them and thinking why the hell..also spoke to some of them and thats how they feel..

    I shouldn't be so narrowed minded but god dam..they have no identity of their own..

    what a meaningless rant can somone please correct the error of my ways..

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazylynx View Post
    and whats up with them thinking they're black and dressing that way..
    well i'm saying that because i'm currently sat in a snooker club looking about 30 of them and thinking why the hell..also spoke to some of them and thats how they feel..
    I shouldn't be so narrowed minded but god dam..they have no identity of their own..
    what a meaningless rant can somone please correct the error of my ways..
    It's because Persian is an ancient culture. But Iran is not Persia. Iranians are a mix of Dravidian, Semitic and Turkic peoples.

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    The Iranians I come across are not trying to be black but badly want to be seen as Western and an extension of European Culture. Most Iranians however are not culturally and genetically European. Just because they speak Indo-European languages in that part of the world does not make them literal Europeans in the modern sense. Most Iranians I meet are polite and helpful but they should not try to be something they are not but instead take pride in their own culture. The ancient Iranic Peoples may have been more like other Europeans at one time, but migrations, invasions and mixing with others has changed this. I have heard there are very rare small numbers of left over white Iranic peoples that still exist deep in the mountains, they are Zoroastrian instead of Muslim and have held on to their culture and old ways.

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    yeah but my best friend is a Sunni musilm.born in Britain but family is from iraq..his cousins even fought against my cousins in the first golf war!! we found it out at a function..the respect is grudging but they're friends...

    .. he doesn't go round thinking he's an ottoman.. if he did at least he would have honour..somthing that is lacking in this world..


    maybe i just don't like Iranians pretending they're black haha..

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    Iran was officially known as Persia until 1935.
    The sitters in the hall seldom know
    The kin of the new-comer:
    The best man is marred by faults,
    The worst is not without worth.
    -- The Havamal, #133 (trans. Auden and Taylor)

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    The ethnic Persians were overthrown by the Arabs thirty years ago. The Persians are much more intelligent and attractive than the Arabs and tend to follow Zoroastrianism instead of Islam. Many of the advances in Mathematics and Science by Middle-Easterners were made by ethnic Persians.

    The Arab-Muslims are not just content to persecute the Persians' faith and exile their Shah, they want to assume their identity as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazylynx View Post
    yeah but my best friend is a Sunni musilm.born in Britain but family is from iraq..his cousins even fought against my cousins in the first golf war!! we found it out at a function..the respect is grudging but they're friends...

    .. he doesn't go round thinking he's an ottoman.. if he did at least he would have honour..somthing that is lacking in this world..


    maybe i just don't like Iranians pretending they're black haha..
    Iranians are mostly Shi'ite Muslim (that wasn't a typo btw) and not Sunni. Iraqis are more likely to be either Sunni or Shi'ite Muslim amongst other things.

    Iraq used to be part of the old Ottoman (Turkish) Empire and they certainly wouldn't want to go around thinking of themselves as Ottomans. They regard the Ottomans as colonial oppressors. It's known that during the time of the Turkish / Kurdish perpetrated holocaust against the Armenians that the Iraqis (Sunni / Shi'ite Muslims) gave refuge and assistance to some of the Orthodox Christian Armenians. The Armenians and Iranians / Persians are also on very good terms despite the differences in their religions.

    As for Iranian's "colour" or complexion or characteristics, it varies. Some are indiscernible from Westerners, light skinned, blond hair etc. Others can be quite dark, particularly the further south one goes in Iran.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oak_Prince View Post
    The ethnic Persians were overthrown by the Arabs thirty years ago. The Persians are much more intelligent and attractive than the Arabs and tend to follow Zoroastrianism instead of Islam. Many of the advances in Mathematics and Science by Middle-Easterners were made by ethnic Persians.

    The Arab-Muslims are not just content to persecute the Persians' faith and exile their Shah, they want to assume their identity as well.

    The Shah was a US / UK / Zionist installed dictator (the CIA deposed the democratically elected leader Mossadegh in the 1950's) whose primary function was to let the Big Western Oil Corporations siphon as much oil as possible off at bargain basement prices.

    The assessment that Arabs (presumably meaning Sunnis?) overthrew ethnic Persians (presumably meaning Shi'ites or Zoroastrianists?) is incorrect.

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